Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Emulation would be a non-starter for a production environment. I would describe this system as a single pass code segment translation system with conditional block invalidation. We have been using VM for 20 of our 27 years in business. A development environment without it has never been considered

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
I just realized you mentioned the target category specified on the mount command was VOLSPECIFIC. Check out PMH 84921,004,000 as this is a known problem being worked. Check with your CE on a timeframe when the fix will be available. Best Regards, Les Geer IBM z/VM and Linux Development >You are

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
Jr, Unfortunately, I have no weight to make the hardware change his position on this. I suppose I could use 'RMS supports PtP as a single node VTS' as a new argument to reopen an issue. But I think I found people more stubborn than me. Alain Le 25/03/08 23:08, « Imler, Steven J » <[EMAIL PRO

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
Are you attempting to write a windows emulator that runs under VM? Looking at your companies web site it looks like you mostly sell products that run under z/OS. If you can do this there will be a lot of interest. Gary M. Dennis wrote: Months ago. The development team was so focused on instru

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Gary M. Dennis
Months ago. The development team was so focused on instruction result fidelity, machine state, and segment translation bypass issues that I/O subsystem did not receive the necessary attention. At least the tough part is done. Gary Dennis Mantissa On 3/25/08 4:17 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Imler, Steven J
Hi Alain, I thought your finally got this ironed out and the problem was resolved? As Les states, that restriction was removed and this should not be a problem. We have several customers who run P2P configurations and do not have this problem. VM:Tape was changed (back) to use the TARGETCAT VOL

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Peter . Webb
Ummm, I may have missed something, but since when can you run Windows on an IBM mainframe? Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary M. Dennis Sent: March 25, 2008 17:14 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM - Lightwei

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Gary M. Dennis
The callable services benchmarks we conducted with BFS ran between 8 and 10 times longer than the test set running with the CMS file system. Assuming a cluster of 125 Windows® 2K z/VM guests and using I/O counts generated by Win 2K on native Intel hardware the results of extrapolating the I/O over

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
It might help if you included the error message. :) Gentry, Stephen wrote: Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below? -- Stephen Frazier Information Technology Unit Oklahoma Department of Corrections 3400 Martin Luther King Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298 Tel.: (405) 425-2549

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
Les, You are referring to the z/VM530 documentation, aren't you ? With or without target parameter in the MOUNT cmd, the targetcat is not changed under z/VM440 when asking for a scratch in P2P. Did the test with z/VM530, no change. This hardware situation is a major regression. We could not live

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
>I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. > >When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other >as P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target >category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr >changed th

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Gentry, Stephen
Rob do you know what might be causing the errors below?

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Alain Benveniste
I suppose you would be aware of our peer-to-peer problem. When we got a 2nd 3494 in 2004, we decided to make them talk each other a s P2P mode. This situation revealed a major problem related to the target category. In basic mode, asking to mount a scratch through vmtape, rmsmastr changed the ca

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
>I'm sure the people planning for the new hardware have considered it. >I was just concerned that in their plan they had no native physical tape >for VM. Ann, You should check. Our storage people brought in a remote VTS to replace tapes that were being physically moved offsite. They were complet

Re: Adding Spool Volumes

2008-03-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
Well, I tend to disagree about your statement that it will not be the same the next time. We have a tendency to keep the dump disks clean by processing dumps in a timely manner. Do not forget that the type of change I am considering is a planned outage/IPL for the purpose of rearranging things. It

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Jones
Another possibility would be to exploit the infrastructure that the RSK provides.. DJ Alan Altmark wrote: On Tuesday, 03/25/2008 at 04:26 EDT, "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is anyone aware of a VM open source file system port with some of the characteristics listed below.

Re: z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 03/25/2008 at 04:26 EDT, "Gary M. Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone aware of a VM open source file system port with some of the > characteristics listed below. Such a system might enable us to add the > functionality needed to support these guests without starting at zero

Re: Question about virtual tape in a zVM environment

2008-03-25 Thread Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
I'm sure the people planning for the new hardware have considered it. I was just concerned that in their plan they had no native physical tape for VM. Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Frazier Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008

z/VM - Lightweight specific purpose file system

2008-03-25 Thread Gary M. Dennis
We need a lightweight file system to support z/VM i86 guest operating systems. A high speed garbage can of sorts. Is anyone aware of a VM open source file system port with some of the characteristics listed below. Such a system might enable us to add the functionality needed to support these guest