At 09:02 PM 4/10/2008, you wrote:
What's Normal?
Just north of Bloomington.
Bob Shair
Open Systems Consulting
Champaign, Illinois
We currently use EMC disk (DMX 2000) for our z/VM environment. At this
time there is no support for entering flashcopy commands under z/VM with
the DMX 2000 type disk.
Paul Feller
AIT Mainframe Technical Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(319)-355-7824
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From: The IBM z/V
z/VOS has not been released and no technical specifications are available.
It should not surprise anyone that this could and would be done. It's much
closer to detective work than rocket science. Once you acknowledge that the
x86 instruction set is a jungle when compared to the well ordered garden
What's Normal?
Dave Wade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: One place I went too also
wanted you to have a normal personality profile
..
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From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Howard Rifkind
Sent: 09 April 2008 22
...
> EMC disk storage is being considered as a replacement for our
> current disk storage.
> I am told EMC disk storage functions differently for flashcopy.
> EMC disk storage utilizes BVCs for images... The interface for
> implementing BVC images does not support z/VM... (I am not sure
> if thi
Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>1. The MDISK must be defined as MWV. If you don't do that, the virtual
>machine will get a COMMAND REJECT on a RESERVE CCW.
>2. A successful RESERVE is always enforced on the local VM system. Always.
>3. If the MDISK is a fullpack minidisk (DEVNO or 0-END
Hello,
Presently we have DS6800 disk storage configured for 3390-3 and 3390-9.
Our address range for production is 1000-10FF with 2000-20FF for the
flashcopied volumes.
EMC disk storage is being considered as a replacement for our current disk
storage.
I am told EMC disk storage functions differ
z/VM 5.3 has a Rexx STSI() function. TSO Rexx does not, even at z/OS
1.9. Running APF-authorized this code (or something like it):
MODESET MODE=SUP
SLR 0,0
STSI 0(0)
MODESET MODE=PROB
should return a '3000' in
On: Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:25:53PM -0500,Patrick Spinler Wrote:
} Where might one find more information about the z/VOS product you
} mention? A quick google search or two doesn't show any obvious hits on
} the first pages ..
Check the archives of this list. It was discussed a few days ago.
-
Hillgang, the DC-based z/VM and Linux user group, is holding its next
meeting on April 24 at the CA offices in Herndon Va. We especially thrilled
to announce that one of our featured speakers is Mike Cowlishaw, IBM Fellow,
Rexx/NetRexx author, and decimal arithmetic architect.
For the complete age
The SYSTEM NETID file was updated to support RSCS. I had problem with
it at the beginning, but found my error. The RSCS environment looks to
be working okay. I can send things through RSCS from one system to
another.
Paul Feller
AIT Mainframe Technical Support
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(319)-355-
Not on the second page, either.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> Where might one find more information about the z/VOS product
> you mention? A quick google search or two doesn't show any
> obvious hits on the first pages ..
>
> - -- Pat
>
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On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 04:27 EDT, Raymond Noal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The z/OS command - D M=CPU - for a z/OS system running in a virtual
machine
> does not show the first byte of the CPU-ID. This is from my z/OS system
running
> in a virtual machine.
>
> D M=CPU
> IEE174I 13.19.16
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Gary M. Dennis wrote:
|
| Our experience with z/VOS indicates that it is possible to run Intel
| binaries efficiently on System z. However, this efficiency is not
possible
| with emulation. Prime pass code translation with managed code segment
| inv
For the participants of IBMVM, IBMMAIN, LINUX390 who
are interested in technical education on System z.
If you are looking for a week of technical education,
the next IBM tech conference for System z is coming up.
Enrollment is open to Customers, ISVs, Partners, and IBMers, too.
IBM System z Tec
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 02:34 EDT, "Feller, Paul"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are trying to run DirMaint under z/VM 5.3 (RSU 0703) in a multi lpar
> (IFL) setup. We can get DirMaint to properly do updates on one system,
> but we can't get it to propagate the updates to the other two system
But you might use them as dedicated devices that are shared with outside
(of VM) agents. That is the point of making a device shared in the
config file or by command - to keep CP from killing channel programs
containing RESERVE or RELEASE.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
The STSI instruction should tell you.
>From Principles of Operation, SA22-7832-05, page 10-114:
Function
Code Information Requested
-
0Current-configuration-level number
1Information about level 1 (the basic machine)
2
Oh and add
Security concerns (support of DIRMAINT and RACF or VMSECURE or TOPSECRET
, or whatever Security products you use.)
From: Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 5:08 PM
To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RE: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Progra
Oh and add
Network support (IP and SNA connections, network printer support via
RSCS)
From: Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 4:56 PM
To: 'The IBM z/VM Operating System'
Subject: RE: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems Programmer
Well stated.
Also to consider, the degree to which this person/position will need to
"play well with others".
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Smith, Ann (ISD, IT)
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:56 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
How about changing the thread name for this thing? It is out of
control.
Jim Hughes
603-271-5586
"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're
talking about."
John von Neumann
From: The IBM z/VM Operating S
It depends on what specific things you want the z/VM systems programmer
to support-such as:
Install and maintain z/VM
any specific IBM and ISV products under z/VM (SES and non-SES)
any existing REXX exec's
any existing Assembler programs
any existing Exits and Mods
guest operating systems such as V
In the early days, VM checked to see if a disk was sharable by executing
a channel program containing a RESERVE during initialization. This
sometimes led to real problems if the RESERVE worked and CP crashed
(yes, Virginia, CP did crash early and often in its infancy) before the
RELEASE was done. T
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 04:23 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Would making the devices unsupported prevent the command rejects on
> reserve and release CCWs? Of course, doing that opens another can of
> worms.
If they are unsupported then you cannot use them for minidisks.
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 04:05 EDT, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > 1. The MDISK must be defined as MWV. If you don't do that, the
virtual
> > machine will get a COMMAND REJECT on a RESERVE CCW.
>
> Uh... don't think so. If your mini disk starts at cylinder 0 and the
> real
The z/OS command - D M=CPU - for a z/OS system running in a virtual machine
does not show the first byte of the CPU-ID. This is from my z/OS system running
in a virtual machine.
D M=CPU
IEE174I 13.19.16 DISPLAY M 230
PROCESSOR STATUS
That works; however, it precludes the sharing of a disk among multiple
MVS or VSE guests running under the same CP. If only one user needs
access to the disk, then dedicate or attach are sufficient. You do need
to insure that the devices shared this way are shared in the RDEV,
either through the SY
Hmmm. It seems we are in agreement on that. My point was countering the
statement that MWV was necessary and sufficient for sharing with other
LPARs. It is neither necessary nor sufficient for that purpose. Making
the disk SHARED through the config file or by command fills the role for
that purpose
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Schuh, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You don't. Virtual Reserve/Release emulates the real reserve and release
> CCWs when you have two guests in the same LPAR sharing an O/S or VSE
> disk. Real R/R would be of no help in that instance because it applies
>
You need one system with DIRMAINt and the two others with DIRMSAT. Note a
pitfall that I remember from the 9221 days when I impleted it: one of the
DIRMAINT's minidisks should never be linked by anyone, or the DIRMSAT
workers won't run.
2008/4/10, Feller, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >>>From: Th
At a time my customer had some softwares that all required a shared minidisk
with Reserve/Release (MIM, STK, ...), these softwares required two disks
for safety; STK required 4 as we had 2 silos. With VM's restriction that
real R/R works for a fullpack only,, it would have costed us 6 (or was it
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Alan Altmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 02:54 EDT, "Quay, Jonathan (IHG)"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > To share with other LPARS you need REAL reserve/release, which I think
> > entails coding SHARED in on the RDEV in the system
We used to DEDICATE the packs to the MVS or VSE images running
underneath and share across physical CECs (3090 days).
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Alan Altmark
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:38 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.ED
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 02:54 EDT, "Quay, Jonathan (IHG)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To share with other LPARS you need REAL reserve/release, which I think
> entails coding SHARED in on the RDEV in the system configuration file.
1. The MDISK must be defined as MWV. If you don't do that, the
You can use all DIRMAINT's CSE capabilities without shared spool, hence
without PVM. I set it up with RSCS quite some years ago. But, as it is
that long agao, I no longer remember by heart what to code in DIRMAINT's
config file, what is why I didn't reply earlier
2008/4/10, David Boyes <[EM
>>>From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of David Boyes
>>AFAIK, the DIRM satellite support is for CSE configurations, and you
need PVM to activate CSE completely. Did you set up CSE?
We have not seen anything in the manuals that says CSE is a requirement.
We sat
Imagine the commercials. "So easy a PAVEMAN can do it." :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Walter
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:55 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSER
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Stephen Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > A. Using mode MW is a way to allow several VSE guests to share a mini
> disk.
> > If the mini disk is CMS formated then it is a good w
I was waiting for Mark Suchecki, the current CAVMEN "Ring Master/Ring
Leader/Chairman" to chime in, but since Bill Munson already replied...
CAVMEN is an acronym for Chicago Area VM ENthusiasts, going back, IIRC, to
1983 or maybe a little earlier. To have a Phoenix chapter it would have
to be
To share with other LPARS you need REAL reserve/release, which I think
entails coding SHARED in on the RDEV in the system configuration file.
You don't. Virtual Reserve/Release emulates the real reserve and release
CCWs when you have two guests in the same LPAR sharing an O/S or VSE
disk. Real R/R would be of no help in that instance because it applies
at the control unit level and reserves the device to an LPAR or, if
running in basic m
> We are trying to run DirMaint under z/VM 5.3 (RSU 0703) in a multi
lpar
> (IFL) setup. We can get DirMaint to properly do updates on one
system,
> but we can't get it to propagate the updates to the other two systems.
> We are trying to do this communicating with RSCS with no shared spool
or
>
On 4/10/08 10:02 AM, "David Boyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You cannot run Intel binaries efficiently on System z hardware. You can run
>> Windows applications based on the portable subset of .NET (using Mono) or
>> applications which you have source code and can recompile for System z
>> h
The closest VM user's group to Phoenix that I know of is BayBunch,
usually held in/around SFO.
Of course, you could find 3 or 4 like minded individuals in the local
area and declare yourselves a Movement
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claudio Testore
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:40 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: How to know if running as a guest
>
>
> Is there any z/OS command to know if the system is
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Schuh, Richard
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 1:30 PM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Ten Questions to ask a Prospective z/VM Systems
> Programmer
>
>
> If you share with a
If you display the cpuid and the first two nibbles are FF, you are running as a
guest of VM.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Claudio Testore
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:40 AM
> To: IB
Actually, I think the requirement is RSCS or shared spool. PVM is required
for CSE to implement its features, including shared spool.
--
Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~.
RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\
507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\
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Is there any z/OS command to know if the system is running under VM?
Thanks. Claudio
Yahoo! Encuentros.
Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros
http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration
It may have changed but I thought you needed PVM, not RSCS.
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Feller, Paul
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 2:33 PM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Question about DirMaint on z/VM 5.3
We ar
No, but there are a few of us VM'rs here!
Christine Brogan - TPF/VM Systems Support
Information Technology Services Americas
Phone: 623-505-5366, Cell: 623-512-5883, IBM tieline 273-4647
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you share with a user outside your own LPAR, you need real
Reserve/Release, not virtual. The virtual is for when you have multiple
guests running in the same LPAR, under the same CP, who need the
Reserve/release. Virtual reserve/Release will do nothing to prevent
clashes with other LPARs.
Rega
We are trying to run DirMaint under z/VM 5.3 (RSU 0703) in a multi lpar
(IFL) setup. We can get DirMaint to properly do updates on one system,
but we can't get it to propagate the updates to the other two systems.
We are trying to do this communicating with RSCS with no shared spool or
shared DAS
Danny,
I do not know of a VM users group in or around Arizona but you can start
one.
go to this IBM web site and check out the known VM user groups.
http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/
If you see one of us at SHARE or the z Conference or WAVV come over and
say hello
check out all our web sites li
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Thomas Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Virtual Reserve/Release - Allowing two or more MVS-type guests to properly
> share DASD in write-mode.
The subtle details are in where the V goes (on the MDISK statement,
not on the link) and why this sometimes requires a f
Are there any chapters in Phoenix, Arizona ?
Thanks
Danny Padilla
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chicago Area VM (and Linux) Enthusiasts
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 3:51 AM
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: CAVMEN Meeti
Virtual Reserve/Release - Allowing two or more MVS-type guests to properl
y
share DASD in write-mode.
/Tom Kern
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:43:00 +0200, Rob van der Heij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Stephen Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>
>> A. Using mode MW i
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Stephen Frazier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A. Using mode MW is a way to allow several VSE guests to share a mini disk.
> If the mini disk is CMS formated then it is a good way to make all the data
> on the disk unavailable. If it is a Linux disk it is a way to m
McKown, John wrote:
Huh? What else, other than Hercules, allows Linux for System z to run on
a non-z machine???
Flex-ES.
--
Stephen Frazier
Information Technology Unit
Oklahoma Department of Corrections
3400 Martin Luther King
Oklahoma City, Ok, 73111-4298
Tel.: (405) 425-2549
Fax: (405) 425-
I like my answer better. :)
Colin Allinson wrote:
q. How does linking a disk with mode MW function & what is the result -
assuming you have authority to do the link?
A. Using mode MW is a way to allow several VSE guests to share a mini disk. If the mini disk is CMS
formated then it is a good
Shades of TELXON. 9 VP (4 were temp VP), 7 million dollars, and 10
years later VM was gone. So is TELXON.
Ed Martin
330-588-4723
ext 40441
-Original Message-
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of McKown, John
Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:01 AM
> Some Windows apps can run under linux under VM, by using WINE or
BOCHS(?) to name a couple.
WINE requires an Intel system (it just intercepts the Windows API calls,
doesn't do anything about instruction set).
Bill, you can run Linux on the mainframe, either in an LPAR stand alone
(not really recommended) or you can run it under VM. VM can run Linux
in a regular CP or in an IFL.
Windows cannot run natively in an LPAR or under VM like Linux can. Some
Windows apps can run under linux under VM, by using
Much better. Thanks, Alan.
However, the DETERSE comments still hold.
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 9:21 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subj
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 11:54 EDT, "Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I have no problem ordering individual PTFs. In this case, I started at
> IBMLINK, followed the bouncing ball through the maze when I was
> attempting to order "the latest RSU and PE fixes for z/VM 5.3.0", and
> tha
You need to read up on MW :-) W is not a "fallback" mode, as there is no first
attempt to get it M. Instead, MW says, in effect, bypass the check for simple
read or write links, only fail if the disk is already linked Stable or
Exclusive by a user.
One possible answer to the question you pos
Go to SRD and select "Order a VM RSU" from the left side. Navigate the
non-intuitive choices. Choose INET as your delivery method. Then "work
with orders" from the left side again. When your order is in "shipped"
status, there will be FTP information when you browse it.
-Original Message--
I have no problem ordering individual PTFs. In this case, I started at
IBMLINK, followed the bouncing ball through the maze when I was
attempting to order "the latest RSU and PE fixes for z/VM 5.3.0", and
that is where it finally landed. Do not ask me the path; I couldn't have
remembered it when I
And I'll ask again:
...and the problem with ordering PTFs via IBMLink is?
I.e. If IBMLink works for you, what's the specific reason for using
shopzSeries?
"Schuh, Richard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "The IBM z/VM Operating System"
04/10/2008 10:34 AM
Please respond to
"The IBM z/VM Opera
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:12 AM, McKown, John
>
> People at church often ask me how much it would cost for me to get the
> computer that I really want. They are shocked when I say millions. Ah,
> to have a z10 and DASD array in the basement. If I had a basement, that
> is.
>
See earlier threa
> It is not put on the same server, you are given no indication of how
to
> get to it. The naming conventions are different. Instead, you are
given
> the choice of either DownloadDirector (which does not seem to be
> functional, even though it stores something unusable on your disk and
> says it co
And that type of delivery is exactly what I would like to see. To be
sure, if given the address of the shopzSeries FTP site and an id and
password I could use, then we would only have been naming conventions
away from the same type of delivery. Instead, the only two choices
provided (DownloadDirect
Asked innocently: and the problem with ordering PTFs via IBMLink is?
I download PTFs from IBMLink directly from a CMS userid all the time.
During the last CAVMEN meeting, while sitting in the back of the room, I
downloaded and applied (to a 2nd level test system) the latest z/VM 530
RSU, and th
As you suggest, we do not have an external I address. We can only be the client
in an FTP transaction, that after jumping through the security hoops.
Are you offering to set up such a service? :-)
Regards,
Richard Schuh
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
>
It is not put on the same server, you are given no indication of how to
get to it. The naming conventions are different. Instead, you are given
the choice of either DownloadDirector (which does not seem to be
functional, even though it stores something unusable on your disk and
says it completed su
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:07 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question about z/VM...
>
>
> > But you echo my sentiment that it would great to see Bochs
> But you echo my sentiment that it would great to see Bochs and the
kernel
> compiled with z10 optimization and to try Windows again.
Make a z10 available, and we'll be there. 8-)
-- db
The following link makes it sound like you can run Linux and MS
Windows virtual servers on z/VM 5.3. Is this the case? We are looking
for a Main Frame / Enterprise Server that will run x86 based OSs like
Linux and MS Windows.
You cannot run Intel binaries efficiently o
And, just to add to this thought: It really rubs me the wrong way that so
many "Java" applications, touting the "Write once, run anywhere" philosophy,
each come with their own JVM as part of the install. IBM is rife with this,
and you can end up with five or six JVM installations on a single server
A chain is as strong as its weakest link. Running Windows on z would not
make it better, IMO. We rarely have Intel hardware outages on our
Enterprise level servers. But Windows will still BSOD on them on
occassion.
--
John McKown
Senior Systems Programmer
HealthMarkets
Keeping the Promise of A
You can migrate the functions of a Windows server to zLinux, by converting
to appropriate Linux-based tools. I don¹t think anything on that page
directly implies that Windows will run in z/VM 5.3. There is the potential
for loose inference, though. To any IBMers present: Is there something we
don¹t
The spring MVMRUG meeting will be hosted by Nationwide Insurance in
their offices in Columbus, Ohio on Friday, April 25. See the
http://www.mvmrug.org/nextmtg.html web page for details and registration
information. The meeting is free and open to all with interest in z/VM
and Linux running runnin
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 9:42 AM, Shimon Lebowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But didn't we have a recent thread here
> by someone whose company DID get Windows
> to run on VM, I think he said somehow on CMS?
Yes.
It appears that works by way of a tighter emulator than those which run on
Linux.
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:57 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question about z/VM...
>
>
> On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 09:47 EDT, "McKown, John"
> <[EM
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 09:47 EDT, "McKown, John"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, using BOCHS, which is an Intel instruction set emulator. I would
> love for them to retry that experiment on a fully powered z10, using
> optimized z10 instructions. On the old system that they used, it was
> u
On Thursday, 04/10/2008 at 09:23 EDT, "McKown, John"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, you cannot run such software on z/VM. The phrasing is very, very
poor.
> What they really mean would be something like: "You may be able
> to consolidate work currently running on Windows and other UNIX
pl
McKown, John wrote:
Uh, if the "Linux software" is a closed source application and the
vendor does not supply a System z port, then the software will not run
on Linux on z. Just being a pain-in-the-buttocks (me).
The question wasn't Linux software, but Linux itself. Yes, the answer
to the Li
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shimon Lebowitz
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:43 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question about z/VM...
>
>
> But didn't we have a recent thread here
> by someone who
But didn't we have a recent thread here
by someone whose company DID get Windows
to run on VM, I think he said somehow on CMS?
>From: "Macioce, Larry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No to windoze on the Z.
> -Original Message-
> From: The IBM z/VM Operating System
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Smrcina
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 8:22 AM
> To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
> Subject: Re: Question about z/VM...
>
>
> Linux, yes, Windows no.
>
> Linux for System z is the same
Linux, yes, Windows no.
Linux for System z is the same Linux that you would see on Intel, except
that the architecture is for mainframes.
The System z is best suited for Linux on System z, due to it's improved
support for new architecture features and exceptional performance.
Perry, Bill wr
No to windoze on the Z. What I think the author is trying to say is if
you have x86 boxes be they unix,aix, or the dreaded w word you should be
able to port the apps to Linux on the Z and run there.
Does anyone read it this way??
There is always bochs for the Z... Just ask David Boyes about his
e
No, you cannot run such software on z/VM. The phrasing is very, very
poor. What they really mean would be something like: "You may be able to
consolidate work currently running on Windows and other UNIX platforms
by use of equivalent software which can run on Linux on System z, if
such software exi
My apologies... here is the link. http://www.vm.ibm.com/linux/
William Perry
San Joaquin County
Information Systems Division
24 S. Hunter Street, Room 5
Stockton, CA 95202
209-468-9737
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From: Perry, Bill
Sent: Wednesday, April 09
The following link makes it sound like you can run Linux and MS Windows
virtual servers on z/VM 5.3. Is this the case? We are looking for a
Main Frame / Enterprise Server that will run x86 based OSs like Linux
and MS Windows.
Regards,
Bill
William Perry
San Joaquin County
Informatio
On: Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 12:28:44AM +0100,Dave Wade Wrote:
} One place I went too also wanted you to have a "normal" personality
} profile...
That would depend on your definition of "normal".
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Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353
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I don¹t believe this will work. Looking at their web site, they don¹t
acknowledge that the product runs on anything but Intel. If they had
installs for it on other platforms, any other platforms, you¹d think they¹d
be proud enough to say so
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Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~.
> Several years ago all hiring managers and above were required to attend
> classes on recruiting and hiring the best people. One class dealt with
> "avoiding the future workplace troublemaker". They handed out a list of
> "personality traits to avoid" that almost perfectly described a typical
>> What is a, "normal" personality profile for a Systems Programmer?
> Argh... misunderstood the suggestion. I thought that having a "normal
> personality" would make a person less suitable for the job :-)
> I can't recall any good VM Systems Programmer with a normal social
> behavior...
>
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