Fw: New member seeks direction

2000-02-14 Thread Mike Kim
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] from Dan Melendez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New member seeks direction Hello, I am interested in the following topics: 1) Internet television(all related

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Mon, 14 Feb 2000 00:37:29 -0500 From:"Donald E. Eastlake 3rd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I think that making egress filtering a BCP, applying community | pressure, bringing law suites, etc., will be about as effective | at

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

2000-02-14 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: Keith Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... RFC 2418 states: Interim meetings are subject to the same rules for advance notification, reporting, open participation, and process, which apply to other working group meetings. ... - This applies to all face to face meetings held for

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

2000-02-14 Thread Fred Baker
At 05:45 PM 2/14/00 -0700, Vernon Schryver wrote: Unless you going to slide the IETF the rest of the way into the ITU/IEEE/ANSI swamp, won't the mailing lists continue to be the only official forums for the working groups? Won't the working group meetings continue to be effectively informal,

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Daniel Senie
Phil Karn wrote: tomorrow demands. And, agreed, bogus source IPs _does_ at present time look like nothing but the devils work. But in, say, 10 years a new flashy techology could be requiring that you have the ability to stamp packets with other IPs than your own. Unfortunately, back in

Re: Who is interested in wireless cards for the Adelaide IETF meeting?

2000-02-14 Thread Dorian Kim
On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:57:57PM +1030, Mark Prior wrote: The package being offered is a WaveLAN IEEE Turbo 11Mbps PC card for AU$276.36 (approx US$175). Drivers are available from Lucent for (at least) Windows 95, 98, NT, CE, 2000, MacOS and Linux. Could people that are interested please

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

2000-02-14 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like it might conflict with the U.S. Constitution's provisions concerning freedom of assembly. (a) The U.S. constitution applies to the Federal government (and sometimes to the state governments); it

Re: Who is interested in wireless cards for the Adelaide IETF meeting?

2000-02-14 Thread Dorian Kim
On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 10:31:16PM -0500, Dorian Kim wrote: I'd be interested in borrowing a pair of wavelan cards. *sigh* apologies for not watching the cc: line. -dorian

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

2000-02-14 Thread Keith McCloghrie
Let's see, how many RFC's are not in English? How many WG meetings or mailinglists? That the IETF is de facto an U.S. outfit is not by itself a bad thing. You seem to be making the assumption that the English language is the property of the USA. Perhaps, you have forgotten that the

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Anders Feder
Robert Elz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure there is a good analogy there.There's no good purpose in sending packets with incorrect source addresses I can think of, and stopping the practice is the basic intent of the filters. "In his early days at Intel, Andy Grove was approached by an

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Charles E. Perkins
Robert Elz wrote: There's no good purpose in sending packets with incorrect source addresses I can think of, and stopping the practice is the basic intent of the filters. Mobile IP would like to send out packets with the mobile node's home address,

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Phil Karn
tomorrow demands. And, agreed, bogus source IPs _does_ at present time look like nothing but the devils work. But in, say, 10 years a new flashy techology could be requiring that you have the ability to stamp packets with other IPs than your own. Unfortunately, back in year 2000, somebody put in

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Paul Ferguson
At 03:41 PM 02/14/2000 -0800, Charles E. Perkins wrote: Mobile IP would like to send out packets with the mobile node's home address, while it is attached to a network in a foreign domain. The home address is likely to look "incorrect" from the standpoint of such a filter. If I'm not mistaken

Re: IETF Adelaide and interim meetings for APPS WGs

2000-02-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vernon Schryver writes : I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like it might conflict with the U.S. Constitution's provisions concerning freedom of assembly. (a) The U.S. constitution applies to the Federal government (and sometimes to the state governments); it

Who is interested in wireless cards for the Adelaide IETF meeting?

2000-02-14 Thread Mark Prior
Lucent will be making available 802.11 DS wireless technology for the forthcoming meeting in Adelaide. They have offered a similar deal to Nortel at the last meeting where IETFers can loan a card for the duration of the meeting and/or buy a card. They would like to get some idea of how many

Re: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Daniel Senie
"Charles E. Perkins" wrote: Robert Elz wrote: There's no good purpose in sending packets with incorrect source addresses I can think of, and stopping the practice is the basic intent of the filters. Mobile IP would like to send out packets

RE: Internet SYN Flooding, spoofing attacks

2000-02-14 Thread Eliot Lear
Steve, Let's be clear: a DOS attack is something the end point itself can do very little to prevent, since it usually fails or succeeds upstream of that end point. Therefore, the end point relies on its upstream ISPs to "do the right thing" and indeed, each of those ISPs relies on other ISPs to

RE: Proposal: reclassify RFC2549, 1149 as historical

2000-02-14 Thread mark.paton
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