Re: Fwd: Re: A Stupid Ploy: Fwd: Who Is Bin Laden?

2001-10-24 Thread Mark Durham
Einar Stefferud wrote: Hi -- I fully know that IETF folk do not want to clutter up the list with political stuff, Yup. but... I think shedding just a little more light on this one event should be OK. Really? Why? I sent that offending spam to a friend in Irvine, California, who likes

Re: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Anthony Atkielski
While it is certainly possible I don't understand what they mean by charging $10,000/year and $1,500/year per .NET app ... They mean to make money, I presume. Microsoft has finally figured out what every software company is eventually going to have to figure out: It's almost impossible to

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-24 Thread Francis Dupont
In your previous mail you wrote: In your previous mail you wrote: Including the people showing slides; at least with printed acetate technology you don't have people stopping to answer their Instant Messages. Francis got the quoting above wrong. I didn't say

RE: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread TOMSON ERIC
Title: RE: Printing Internet Drafts Dear, "COPY FILENAME.EXT PRN" and "TYPE FILENAME.EXT LPT1" do have the same effect : they send FILENAME.EXT to the printer, "as is". Now, about the font used, you have to select the font needed directly on the printer. Why? Because while a word

RE: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Kyle Lussier
Someone inside Microsoft gives me a clear info about this: to be clear, developers will get .NET My Services bits as part of SDK for free if they subscribe MSDN. 1.5K/per app is for partner who wants to test/to be certified against a live testing environment hosted by Microsoft. The 10K

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-24 Thread Aaron Falk
On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: The advantage of multicast vs. tape-and-archive is the real-time aspect for the viewer. However, this is rarely, rarely used. If it turns out that switching from multicast to tape-and-archive can get more camera operators in

Re: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread Dave Crocker
At 06:34 PM 10/23/2001, Ole J. Jacobsen wrote: but it sure would be nice if a group this large and this wise could come up with a simple hack to fix this forever. (On all platforms, that is...) do away with pre-formatted pagination. rely on section numbers for references. d/ --

RE: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Kyle Lussier
If you want everyone to put .NET features in software, it's best to offer the tools to do it for free. Even then, some developers might find it more trouble than it is worth. Well, I am certainly very impressed by the work Red Hat, IBM, Linus, Alan Cox, and the many other contributors to

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-24 Thread Colin Perkins
-- Aaron Falk writes: On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Paul Hoffman / IMC wrote: The advantage of multicast vs. tape-and-archive is the real-time aspect for the viewer. However, this is rarely, rarely used. If it turns out that switching from multicast to tape-and-archive can get

Re: Why isn't the Internet and 3D technology used for the meetings?

2001-10-24 Thread Fred Douglis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Join the ietf_censored list, which is a sublist of [EMAIL PROTECTED], and you'll get the flames pre-filtered out. As the list info says, not all messages are passed. Decisions on what to pass are made solely by Raffaele D'Albenzio. It's a wonderful public service.

Re: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread Keith Moore
do away with pre-formatted pagination. that can significantly degrade presentation, particularly when figures or tables are involved. Keith

Re: participation in IETF meetings

2001-10-24 Thread Keith Moore
This is a great idea! I think I've attended about fifteen IETF's now and at each one I've been to many multicast sessions but I've never, NEVER heard a live question from a multicast viewer. I have, though not very often. I've also heard multicast viewers try to ask questions and be

The IPv6 Challenge....First Ping....Ladies and Gentleman Start Your Engines....

2001-10-24 Thread Jim Fleming
- Original Message - From: Kyle Lussier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love it or hate it, the new majority market is the mixed Windows/Linux shop. Tomorrow, you might want to take the IPv6 Challenge ...gather 12 of your friends across the net. ...have 6 buy Windows XP and 6 buy

Re: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread Matt Crawford
do away with pre-formatted pagination. rely on section numbers for references. Then you would keep tables and ascii-art diagrams from being split ... how?

Internet-Drafts in PDF

2001-10-24 Thread Keith Moore
okay, I've hacked up the scripts that I used to convert RFCs to PDF, to convert Internet-Drafts to PDF also. so folks who can't print ASCII text documents with correct pagination, but can print PDF files, might want to look at http://www.cs.utk.edu/~moore/ID-PDF/ note that this is only

Re: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 10:19:46 EDT, Kyle Lussier said: and the many other contributors to Linux have offered. What really got my attention was the shipping of a journaling file system (I believe with Red Hat 7.2?) so that you can back out hard drive changes. Is that even Actually, ReiserFS

Question about posts on this forumn

2001-10-24 Thread Dan Kolis
Hello, Does this email reflector pass through plan text attachments to all? I sort of think its a strength of the odd email community that it gets off topic *some*. FOr instance I really found the dialog I just got about 3D teleconferencing interesting and want to post it, but think, Hmmm pretty

RE: Question about posts on this forumn

2001-10-24 Thread Aronson, David
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about a short post and text attament? Is that cool? I don't want to be percieved as a weirdo here... Good intent, but bad execution. Attachments have to be transmitted and received anyway, plus many mail readers just show text items as if they were part of

Re: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
I have some fan fold-paper and an impact printer I can send you... ;) joelja On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Matt Crawford wrote: do away with pre-formatted pagination. rely on section numbers for references. Then you would keep tables and ascii-art diagrams from being split ... how? --

Re: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Love it or hate it, the new majority market is the mixed Windows/Linux shop. Linux isn't even a blip on the radar in the vast majority of shops. Having one in the building isn't the same as having a mixed shop. Until and unless the same variety and number of applications are available on

RE: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Kyle Lussier
Linux isn't even a blip on the radar in the vast majority of shops. Having one in the building isn't the same as having a mixed shop. Well, I definitely don't agree with that. I'm not sure what types of shops you are talking about, but I would say the minority of our customers don't have

Re: Microsoft .NET Licensing

2001-10-24 Thread Pekka Savola
Hello folks, Could we drop this subject? I don't see how it relates to IETF, and there are people who care neither about Microsoft nor .NET. -- Pekka Savola Tell me of difficulties surmounted, Netcore Oy not those you stumble over and fall Systems. Networks.

Re: Printing Internet Drafts

2001-10-24 Thread Keith Moore
I have some fan fold-paper and an impact printer I can send you... ;) well, if every Windows user would just get an impact printer and fan fold paper, they wouldn't be whining to us about not being able to print :) Keith

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