Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Michael Richardson wrote: Alexandru == Alexandru Petrescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alexandru If my node has mode managed it will never attach to laptop Alexandru nodes Alexandru having same key same essid but mode ad-hoc. No, that's isn't true. It is true for: ad-hoc =

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Michael Richardson wrote: Why do you think that the helpful drivers that kept us coming up in IBSS mode (proper name for new ad-hoc mode) won't use the keys as well? Ok, I didn't know that. Further, as was said, it does nothing against malicious rogue APs? Rogue malicious wily ruthless users

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread shogunx
In fact, the client can't tell the difference between IBSS and BSS. Nor can Linux systems become IBSS systems without something like hostap (hostap is one way, wireless bridging might be another way I think.) one could have multiple wireless cards in one machine acting as access points

practical subnet sizes smaller than /26, /27, ...

2003-11-21 Thread John Martin
I'm looking for research / surveys on how enterprises and service providers really use subnetting within their networks. In particular, I'm interested in the size of subnets that people are regularly using and I'm interested in both public and private addressed networks (which I'm assuming,

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Vernon Schryver
From: Alexandru Petrescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... Rogue malicious wily ruthless users skilled enough to configure hostap can rightfully be blamed; but not the novice user turning on a particular vendor's laptop. That may be true in some situations, but should it be tolerated at the IETF? Why

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the AP's MAC address on the clients be a solution? not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 aps for the entire conference... In fact, the client can't

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Joel Jaeggli wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the AP's MAC address on the clients be a solution? not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 aps for the entire conference... Right. So label

Re: howto WLAN, several subnets

2003-11-21 Thread Andrew Partan
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 05:29:15PM +0100, Joel Jaeggli wrote: So instead of forcing key+essid on the clients, would setting the AP's MAC address on the clients be a solution? not really unless you want to want to be associated with one of 30 aps for the entire conference... The problem I ran

Re: IETF58 - Network Status

2003-11-21 Thread Randall Gellens
I already indicated before: 100-150 Euros more is not a big issue. Other standards bodies charge very similar amounts for meetings, and also have very hefty annual membership fees. The IETF is in a very unusual position, as far as standards bodies goes, in that we strive for complete