Last day: Call for volunteers: narrative minutes of IESG meetings

2005-08-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Today's the last day to volunteer. By the way, we're thinking of picking two volunteers, to share the load. Brian Original Message Subject: Call for volunteers: narrative minutes of IESG meetings Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:50:05 -0400 From: Brian Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Let's make the benches longer.... (Re: draft-klensin-nomcom-term-00.txt)

2005-08-02 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
On rereading, my previous reply could have been better formulated.. --On 1. august 2005 12:42 -0400 Eric Rosen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the normal process for AD replacement involved choosing which of the people who had worked with the AD for a long time could do the job this

Completely out of scope: Restaurant reccomendation

2005-08-02 Thread Olaf M. Kolkman
Yesterday I had a very nice salad in this slightly overpriced restaurant down the road from the IETF venue. Its a Brasserie specialized in Fruit de Mere. I ordered Salade Italienne. Very nice indeed, until I hit a bug, covered in olive oil, that was enjoying the salad too. I am not a

Re: Completely out of scope: Restaurant reccomendation

2005-08-02 Thread Clint Chaplin
So, who is going to volunteer to set up said wiki? I'm not technically proficient On 8/2/05, Olaf M. Kolkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS. Somebody suggested that it would be nice to have a meeting Wiki for recommendations on restaurants, stories about pickpockets, and other non

Re: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 17:22 01/08/2005, Spencer Dawkins wrote: That would be fine, if I changed the Newcomer's Orientation :-) Spencer Spencer, However, many people here are not using their 'individual money' to get here in Paris. Our name badges list our employers (in most cases). I think its a different

Re: Completely out of scope: Restaurant reccomendation

2005-08-02 Thread Will McAfee
On 8/2/05, Olaf M. Kolkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yesterday I had a very nice salad in this slightly overpriced restaurant down the road from the IETF venue. Its a Brasserie specialized in Fruit de Mere. I ordered Salade Italienne. Very nice indeed, until I hit a bug, covered in olive

Reminder: IAOC Office hours

2005-08-02 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
All - Members of the IAOC will be holding office hours tues/wed/thurs in Room 325M form 3:30-4:30PM. Take the elevator next to the terminal room up to 3.5 and follow signs. A draft pdf of my slides for the Plenary can be viewed at: http://koi.uoregon.edu/~iaoc/ietf-63-iaoc-lel.pdf Please drop

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin This is why I suggest the real danger for the IETF is the collusion of large organisations through external consortia to get a market dominance through de facto excluding IETF standardisation and IANA registry control. And this is why I suggest the best

Internet Draft Process Procedure

2005-08-02 Thread zhen
Hello folks, Just a quick question about the acceptance of Internet-Drafts. Is there such a term called acceptance about Internet-drafts or they will be anounced anyway as long as being proposed? As I figured that it's like everyone talks about his/her opinions freely in the form of I-D. An I-D

Personal Security Reminder

2005-08-02 Thread IETF Secretariat
Please be sure you do not leave any of your belongs unattended anywhere in the meeting venue, including meeting rooms. Your belongs may be picked up by either security or someone else and you may not be able to retrieve them. Several people already have computer bags picked up and they may or

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 16:23 02/08/2005, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin This is why I suggest the real danger for the IETF is the collusion of large organisations through external consortia to get a market dominance through de facto excluding IETF standardisation and IANA registry

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Except if you can grab a BCP. I am not sure you are actually right. You certainly know a few cases. The lack of an IETF endorsed spec from MARID did not stop Microsoft from holding an industry gala two weeks ago in NYC. Nobody commented

Very helpful Parisians (Was: Cautionary tale: Paris pickpockets)

2005-08-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
There's been a lot of discussion about petty crime in Paris -- I posted my own story (and if you need to know how to get an emergency passport in Paris, talk to me offline). Let me follow up on my own posting. To recap, my wife's purse was stolen at a restaurant very close to the hotel. Two

Re: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread Aki Niemi
My 2 cents: I firmly believe in the individual and voluntary aspects of IETF attendance. I also belong to both categories; sure my employer pays for the expenses, but nobody forced me to come over. (Come on it's Paris after all, although I have gone to all of the Minneapolis meetings, too. ;) I

Re: Completely out of scope: Restaurant reccomendation

2005-08-02 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Sounds like something the Tools Team could provide. Should I set up one? Henrik On 2005-08-02 11:13 Clint Chaplin said the following: So, who is going to volunteer to set up said wiki? I'm not technically proficient On 8/2/05, Olaf M. Kolkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS.

A Complaint to the IETF and IESG (was Re: Please change the Subject: when you change the subject [Re: Sarcarm and intimidation])

2005-08-02 Thread Dean Anderson
I haven't changed the subject. The correct subject is sarcasm and intimidation. I have just provided specific examples of sarcasm and intimidation that have happened while working on spam issues for the IETF. Those specific exmaples fall under the topic of the subject header. Your complaint about

Re: Internet Draft Process Procedure

2005-08-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
They are posted if they follow the guidelines, in particular the mandatory text about intellectual property etc. See http://www.ietf.org/ietf/1id-guidelines.html Posting an I-D implies nothing about its status. It simply means it is on line for 6 months. A working group may decide to adopt a

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
There are cases where it is useful for a group to be able to take notice of first hand experience that comes from employment. For example I am currently reading a somewhat sureal thread in which an individual who clearly has no experience or understanding of running network operations for a large

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Interesting: I like you piercing spirit. But, I am afraid you are too much legacy intoxicated :-) what I think surprising. I suppose we agree but you have odd ways of seeing it. At 18:58 02/08/2005, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Except if

missing mouse

2005-08-02 Thread Aaron Falk
I seem to have left a small wireless mouse somewhere, probably the terminal room. Has anybody seen it? --aaron ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

RE: I'm not the microphone police, but ...

2005-08-02 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, August 02, 2005 07:23 -0700 Hallam-Baker, Phillip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Certainly there are bizare corporations attempting to achieve some sort of stranglehold. Anyone remember digital convergence and the CueCat? That type of behavior tends to come from market entrants

Protocol Action: 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures' to BCP

2005-08-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures ' draft-freed-media-type-reg-05.txt as a BCP This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Scott Hollenbeck. A

Document Action: 'TCP/IP Field Behavior' to Informational RFC

2005-08-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'TCP/IP Field Behavior ' draft-ietf-rohc-tcp-field-behavior-04.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Robust Header Compression Working Group. It was also given a review by the TCPM Working Group. The IESG contact

Document Action: 'A Framework for Conferencing with the Session Initiation Protocol' to Informational RFC

2005-08-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Framework for Conferencing with the Session Initiation Protocol ' draft-ietf-sipping-conferencing-framework-05.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Session Initiation Proposal Investigation Working Group. The

Protocol Action: 'The TLS Protocol Version 1.1' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'The TLS Protocol Version 1.1 ' draft-ietf-tls-rfc2246-bis-13.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Transport Layer Security Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Russ Housley and Sam Hartman. A URL of this

Personal Security Reminder

2005-08-02 Thread IETF Secretariat
Please be sure you do not leave any of your belongs unattended anywhere in the meeting venue, including meeting rooms. Your belongs may be picked up by either security or someone else and you may not be able to retrieve them. Several people already have computer bags picked up and they may or

PGP Key Signing at IETF63

2005-08-02 Thread IETF Agenda
Once again, we will be holding a PGP Key signing party at the IETF-63 meeting in Paris. We have been scheduled to meet at 1930 on the evening of Wednesday, August 3 in room 322M. As usual, if the plenary runs over, we will start approximately five minutes *after* the plenary session ends. Please