Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI)Area

2005-09-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Yaakov Stein wrote: (Back to the original subject line) I must admit that I am still unclear as to the true purpose of this new area. At first I understood that the IETF was finally to address real-time and/or delay-sensitive applications, and Brian's list of WGs was just a proposed

Re: Adding parallelism? (was Re: Cost vs. Benefit of Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture Area)

2005-09-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Sam Hartman wrote: Pekka how important is it that documents get reviewed by *all* Pekka current areas? There are certainly some cross-layer Pekka areas, such as SEC and OPS, that should worry about all Pekka layers, but aren't the primary purpose of layering to make Pekka

Re: Adding parallelism? (was Re: Cost vs. Benefit of Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture Area)

2005-09-23 Thread Pekka Nikander
So, I am hearing here two conflicting messages: 1. We can't consider a horizontal split, since we need cross-fertilisation and cross-area review. 2. We aren't doing (that much) cross-area review, or at least don't require it. Hence, I think my question still stands: Might the benefits

.local [Re: Summary of the LLMNR Last Call]

2005-09-23 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Bernard Aboba wrote: ... Even fixing the issue in another IETF specification could prove sticky, because it can be argued that the IANA has authority over the allocation of new TLDs such as .local not the IETF, Not so. Under exception (a) of clause 4.3 of RFC 2860, the IETF can require IANA

Re: .local

2005-09-23 Thread Frank Ellermann
Brian E Carpenter wrote: Under exception (a) of clause 4.3 of RFC 2860, the IETF can require IANA to reserve such a pseudo-TLD. If anybody thinks we should do so, feel free to write a short draft. How about adding it to 2606 ? 2606bis could add a note that .local might be used for local

Comments on draft-iab-link-indications-03.txt

2005-09-23 Thread Elwyn Davies
Hi. I did a quick read of this document and have a couple of general comments (plus I spotted a very few trival nits). It seems to be a very useful survey of what has been done in the area of Wireless LAN and the interactions of link indications for hosts connected directly to such links.

Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI)Area

2005-09-23 Thread Pete Resnick
On 9/23/05 at 8:51 AM +0200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Yaakov Stein wrote: I must admit that I am still unclear as to the true purpose of this new area. Firstly, I refer you to Ted Hardie's New area description/name http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg37849.html which

Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area

2005-09-23 Thread Dave Crocker
Melinda, et al, The term real-time tends to mean sub-second, and often much faster than that. Vernacular is not usually *more* precise. Note that I cited (human) interactive vs. real-time, with whereas the usage you describe one terms that encompasses both. The discussion at

Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area

2005-09-23 Thread Melinda Shore
On 9/23/05 5:38 PM, Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the proposed area, that does not seem to explain the inclusion of ENUM, instant messaging or presence. (This area is going to take over xmpp, too?) ENUM is ancillary to telephony and not really to much else. But anyway, you'll note

Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area

2005-09-23 Thread Dave Crocker
Melinda, thanks for pursuing this. I tend to prefer naming it something around multimedia applications but as long as whatever it is is reasonably descriptive and won't lead to people thinking that it's a proper place to work on things like storage device controllers, I'm good. well, what I

Re: Possible new Real-Time Applications and Infrastucture (RAI) Area

2005-09-23 Thread Dave Crocker
Adam Roach wrote: Dave Crocker wrote: (This area is going to take over xmpp, too?) I don't think it is a useful exercise to go through all the closed working groups to determine which would have been in RAI had the area existed when they were still active. i agree. so it's probably a

Mismanagement of the DNSOP list

2005-09-23 Thread Dean Anderson
FYI: I am being threatened for posting operationally relevant criticism of mis-operation of the F DNS Root server on the DNSOP list. -- Av8 Internet Prepared to pay a premium for better service? www.av8.net faster, more reliable, better service 617 344 9000 -- Forwarded

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mismanagement of the DNSOP list]

2005-09-23 Thread David Kessens
IESG, I would like to request that we consider Dean Anderson posting privileges to be removed for the dnsop and ietf maillist. As you can see from my private mail that Dean forwarded to the IETF list, I have given him an official warning to refrain from sending any more abusive mails to IETF