Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-02 Thread Mark Andrews
> Mohsen, > it seems that Stephane tested the Chinese open root too much and > meets some naming problems. > Or that Stephane wants you, and others may-be, to be PR-defamacted > one shot with me. > jfc > > PS. I note his technical evaluation that "The problem is 100 % > political and should be

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-02 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 15:26 02/03/2006, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:26:23AM -0800, Jefsey Morfin, disguised as Mohsen BANAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 551 lines which said: Mohsen, it seems that Stephane tested the Chinese open root too much and meets some naming problems.

Re: IETF Meeting Network and Other Technical Requirements

2006-03-02 Thread Bob Hinden
Jason, On Mar 2, 2006, at 7:44 AM, ext Livingood, Jason wrote: Does this section mean that 802.11a is specifically not supported? Any idea if the wifi network at the Dallas meeting will be better than in Vancouver? The true test will be the meeting itself, but we are working hard to try

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:26:23AM -0800, Jefsey Morfin, disguised as Mohsen BANAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 551 lines which said: > The Internet technical community is now given a unique opportunity There is nothing to do for the IETF or the "Internet technical community" (whateve

Re: IAB Response to the Appeal from Julian Mehnle

2006-03-02 Thread Julian Mehnle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 To any who reply to this thread: please, please trim the list of recipients to remove any of the following addresses, unless you explicitly want to address them: * iab@iab.org * iesg@ietf.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith Moore wrote: > when editi

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Dave Aronson (re IETF)
Hallam-Baker, Phillip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] gloated: > You puny creatures do not grasp my fiendish plan! > Victory, your name is Plankton! Somebody's been playing too much Evil Genius -- Dave Aronson Work: http://www.davearonson.com/ Play: http://www.davearonson.net/ _

Re: [spf-discuss] IAB Response to the Appeal from Julian Mehnle

2006-03-02 Thread Keith Moore
when editing documents that purport to describe existing practices and protocols, there is often a conflict between documenting existing practice and describing desirable practice (or undesirable practice). this conflict results in confusion of goals, and one possible result is that the document de

RE: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
You puny creatures do not grasp my fiendish plan! Victory, your name is Plankton! Well this sucks. > -Original Message- > From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 12:12 PM > To: Brian E Carpenter; william(at)elan.net > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Su

Very Important Statement to Review for Signing

2006-03-02 Thread Seth Johnson
(IETF seriously needs to address this. Please consider the following and forward to all the appropriate interested parties. If you are a blogger or know clueful bloggers, please post it in a highly visible forum. -- Seth Johnson) Hello folks, Please review the important joint statement below

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Dear Brian, I am afraid you do not grasp yet what it represents for the Internet architecture. http://www.circleid.com/posts/chinas_new_domain_names_lost_in_translation At 11:44 02/03/2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote:... Ignore China? No, that would be foolish. We automatically ignore any pseu

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread shogunx
I agree here, Brian. Interoperabilty must be maintained. The issue is, will China agree? On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > ... > > Ignore China? > > No, that would be foolish. > > We automatically ignore any pseudo-TLD that only exists within > a walled garden, because it is simpl

Re: IETF Meeting Network and Other Technical Requirements

2006-03-02 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Jason, No actually the meaning is somehow that b/g are a must, basically because we still have lots of laptops which only support those protocols, but from the email exchange on this list some weeks ago regarding the network at Dallas, it seems that "a" will be also a must in the future. I'm a

Re: [spf-discuss] IAB Response to the Appeal from Julian Mehnle

2006-03-02 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 02/03/06, Leslie Daigle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On February 8, 2006, The IAB received an appeal from Julian Mehnle > appealing the IESG decision to publish draft-lyon-senderid-core as an > Experimental RFC. According to the procedures in Section 6.5.2 of RFC > 2026, the IAB has reviewed the

RE: IETF Meeting Network and Other Technical Requirements

2006-03-02 Thread Livingood, Jason
Does this section mean that 802.11a is specifically not supported? Any idea if the wifi network at the Dallas meeting will be better than in Vancouver? Regards Jason 3.3. Wireless Network IEEE 802.11b/g service must be available in all the meeting rooms (as identified by the Secretariat)

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Thierry Ernst
> What I find fascinating here is the way that certain people think that > an action taken at the state level by the most populous nation on earth [...] > with the largest army, nuclear weapons, Do you mean ... US ;-) ? > third largest GNP etc. somehow > validates the splinter roots set up by

RE: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
What I find fascinating here is the way that certain people think that an action taken at the state level by the most populous nation on earth with the largest army, nuclear weapons, third largest GNP etc. somehow validates the splinter roots set up by assorted crackpots rather than demonstrating t

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Joe Baptista
Brian E Carpenter wrote: ... Ignore China? No, that would be foolish. It is foolish. We automatically ignore any pseudo-TLD that only exists within a walled garden, because it is simply invisible outside. It isn't part of the global Internet. If it appears in any way outside the walled

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-02 Thread Joe Baptista
Mohsen BANAN wrote: More than 5 years ago I predicted what the Chinese government announced today. This action by the chinese was done three years ago. This is not a new event. regards joe What happened today: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html http://www.in

SECOND CALL: IESG Transport Area Director Call for Nominees

2006-03-02 Thread Ralph Droms
Second call for nominations --- The NomCom has been asked to fill the Transport Area Director position now vacant as a result of Jon Peterson's nomination to Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area Director and resignation from his position as Transport Area Director

IAB Response to the Appeal from Julian Mehnle

2006-03-02 Thread Leslie Daigle
On February 8, 2006, The IAB received an appeal from Julian Mehnle appealing the IESG decision to publish draft-lyon-senderid-core as an Experimental RFC. According to the procedures in Section 6.5.2 of RFC 2026, the IAB has reviewed the situation and issues the following response. 1. Summary of

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
... Ignore China? No, that would be foolish. We automatically ignore any pseudo-TLD that only exists within a walled garden, because it is simply invisible outside. It isn't part of the global Internet. If it appears in any way outside the walled garden, it is meaningless. I think there are a

Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-02 Thread Mohsen BANAN
More than 5 years ago I predicted what the Chinese government announced today. What happened today: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=10411&slug=INTERNET-POLICY-MII-DOMAIN%20NAME-DNS http://www.domainesinfo.fr/vie_extensions

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-02 Thread Mohsen BANAN
> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 14:46:42 -0800 (PST), "william(at)elan.net" <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> said: William> On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: >> >>> From: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> Dear Phillip, >>> Full agreement. Let not confuse alt-ro