Announcement of the new work : Link Characteristic Information for Mobility

2006-05-09 Thread Soohong Daniel Park
Hi The following is the work description of LCI (Link Characteristic Information for Mobility). Jouni Korhonen, Hannes Tschofenig and I are thinkig of having a new BOF in the IETF-66 on this subject (Target Area is TBD, but presumably, TSV or RTA&Infra). The problem statement is available via

RE: Perils of Last Minute Change (Was: RE: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt)

2006-05-09 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Harald, > The tracker tracks Sorry, I didn't realize where I would find RFC Editor notes in the public tracker. I have now been properly educated. > the RFC Editor note was modified (by me) on July 24, 2004. > The reason was a comment from Ted Hardie on July 21, > augumenting a DISCU

RE: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt

2006-05-09 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Sam, With the change that you have proposed below, I would support publication of this document (and the running of this experiment). While there are a number of small things we could tweak, I think that would be a waste of time. This is good enough as a temporary measure to relieve the curr

Re: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt

2006-05-09 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Margaret" == Margaret Wasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Margaret> This document defines an RFC3933 experiment in which we Margaret> would temporarily give the IESG the authority to create Margaret> new mailing list management procedures and enact them. Margaret> The only

Re: Perils of Last Minute Change (Was: RE: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt)

2006-05-09 Thread Harald Alvestrand
The tracker tracks the RFC Editor note was modified (by me) on July 24, 2004. The reason was a comment from Ted Hardie on July 21, augumenting a DISCUSS from Steve Bellovin: Steve (DISCUSS): >he last paragraph of Section 2 should explain the relationship of this document to RFC 3683.

Perils of Last Minute Change (Was: RE: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt)

2006-05-09 Thread Margaret Wasserman
There is an interesting lesson to be learned from our mailing list management situation... The mailing list procedures draft currently under discussion (draft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt) contains the following correct assessment of our current mailing list management situation: "R

RE: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-art review ofdraft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt

2006-05-09 Thread Margaret Wasserman
There are certainly some major weaknesses in the current IETF mailing list management procedures, and those weaknesses are very well-described in this document. I agree that we need to address those weaknesses. However, I am not sure that I agree with the fix proposed in this document. This doc