RE: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)
        From: Ray Pelletier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Moreover adjacency cannot be avoided with 34 groups and 52 weeks. [DR] Actually from the perspective of a participant from a different continent than North America adjacency of meetings scheduled in North Amer

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Allison Mankin
Ray, > We are working to schedule our events 18 - 24 months in advance to > reduce the inconvenience for you and others. This is a great advance. If there's some rough stuff about getting the calendar process in place when we try this for the first time, people need to remember what an awaited

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Allison Mankin
Ray, > We are working to schedule our events 18 - 24 months in advance to > reduce the inconvenience for you and others. This is a great advance. If there's some rough stuff about getting the calendar process in place when we try this for the first time, people need to remember what an awaited

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Scott W Brim
On 05/17/2006 12:15 PM, Dave Crocker allegedly wrote: > This is a community. It extends beyond the boundaries of the IETF and > the IETF is not the "center' of that community. Is there a center? Is there a centroid? If so, what/where? ___ Ietf mailin

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Ray Pelletier
inline. John C Klensin wrote: --On Wednesday, 17 May, 2006 09:31 -0400 Ray Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John, Thanks for the feedback. Responses in line. John C Klensin wrote: Ray, I don't know if there are other problems, but the events.cal list appe

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Hi, Ray, Without reference to the useful discussion on 2006-2007 dates also in this thread, I would like to thank you guys for putting the 2008-2010 stake in the ground. It is easier for other SDOs to avoid us if we schedule before they do. And thanks for doing so, in a public way, so that y

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Dave Crocker
John C Klensin wrote: This is just my personal opinion, but I don't think that is good enough. If we have "must avoid" entities, then we ought to be establishing administrative<-> administrative liaisons/ contact points as well as technical ones, we ought to be proactively sending out lists a

Re: FW: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Jordi, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: Hi Ray, I think it is very unfair, especially after previous comments done on this topic some weeks ago, to keep ignoring in our calendar the already fixed events of AfriNIC/AfNOG, APNIC and LACNIC. I'm not saying they are not actually being considered, but t

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 17 May, 2006 09:31 -0400 Ray Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > Thanks for the feedback. Responses in line. > > John C Klensin wrote: > >> Ray, >> >> I don't know if there are other problems, but the events.cal >> list appears to have not been kept up to date: >>

Fwd: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Marshall Eubanks
At least APNIC has no problems (forwarded with permission). Regards Marshall Begin forwarded message: From: Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 17, 2006 11:07:45 AM EDT To: Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Gaurab Raj Upadhaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Fwd: Last Call: Prop

appeal against an IESG decision

2006-05-17 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
For information. I submitted yesterday the http://jefsey.com/iesg-pr-appeal.pdf appeal against the last IESG decision. That decision - together with an IESG disrespect of RFC 3066 Bis - creates different problems to maintain interoperability between the local IANA registries and other language

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread John C Klensin
Ray, I don't know if there are other problems, but the events.cal list appears to have not been kept up to date: For example, starting from the present, * 3GPP CN is shown as meeting 31 May- 2 June at location TBD, but is definitely scheduled for Warsaw. * 3GPP

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Ray Pelletier
John, Thanks for the feedback.  Responses in line. John C Klensin wrote: Ray, I don't know if there are other problems, but the events.cal list appears to have not been kept up to date: As the opening paragraph for the page ( http://www.ietf.org/meetings/events.cal.html ) states: The

Re: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Joe Abley
On 17-May-2006, at 08:02, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: I'm not saying they are not actually being considered, but they aren't listed in the calendar (http://www.ietf.org/meetings/ events.cal.html), while others from other regions are all listed. In my opinion, either we do that calendar corre

FW: Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Ray, I think it is very unfair, especially after previous comments done on this topic some weeks ago, to keep ignoring in our calendar the already fixed events of AfriNIC/AfNOG, APNIC and LACNIC. I'm not saying they are not actually being considered, but they aren't listed in the calendar (htt

Last Call: Proposed 2008 - 2010 IETF Meeting Calendar

2006-05-17 Thread Ray Pelletier
All; This is a 1 week Last Call for feedback on Version 01 proposed 2008 - 1010 IETF Meeting dates. The IAOC anticipates taking action to formally adopt dates on 25 May 2006. These dates differ from the originally proposed dates based upon community feedback, a review of meeting dates of th