Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread Ned Freed
My head is spinning. Not a good sign given that you wrote the draft in question... The draft (ignoring 3683) restores 2418 and adds the extra powers created by 3934. Yes, I think that's a fair statement of the intent and pretty close to the specifics as well - as long as you ignore 3683. I

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to ...

2006-10-25 Thread Theodore Tso
For the record, I'm personally against rescinding 3683 at this time. I will note that the one actually setting up the PR-ACTION was quite disruptive (and I haven't been on the IESG so I haven't felt their pain, I know), once the PR-ACTION *has* been set up, the amount of effort to deal with someone

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
My head is spinning. The draft (ignoring 3683) restores 2418 and adds the extra powers created by 3934. I've been told by the author of 3934 that removing the powers created by 2418 was not intended (even though there is no other way to read the words in 3934). So I think the question on the tabl

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread Ned Freed
> It seems to me that part of the source of your disconnect is > that not only has 3683 been taken, intentionally or otherwise, > as modifying and restricting 2418, but 3934, intentionally or > otherwise, restricted the provisions of 2418 by (apparently) > banning any suspension longer than 30 days

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 25 October, 2006 20:27 +0700 Robert Elz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date:Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:42:38 +0200 > From:Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | > | > | 1) Do you support the proposal in section 2

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:42:38 +0200 From:Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | > | 1) Do you support the proposal in section 2 of the draft to restore | > | the AD and IESG's ability to suspend posting rights for longer t

Re: Last Call: 'Progressive Posting Rights Supsensions' to BCP (draft-carpenter-rescind-3683)

2006-10-25 Thread Brian E Carpenter
| 1) Do you support the proposal in section 2 of the draft to restore | the AD and IESG's ability to suspend posting rights for longer than | 30 days and to approve alternative methods of mailing list control | as originally documented in RFC 2418? The proposal, as a general thing, yes,