Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-30 Thread Scott W Brim
On 03/29/2007 21:23 PM, Yao Jiankang wrote: Maybe, when we register the IETF meeting, we not only register the English name but also the Native character name. further, IETF may print both the English name and the Native character name on the Name Tag. :) +1 Native language biggest on the

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Mark Brown
Simon, I filed for patent (Jan and Sep 2005) and later promoted TLS authz (Feb 2006) in good faith. It is possible that the patent claims can be read more broadly than I expected, but that's a fairly detailed and unresolved legal question. I am working diligently to -- let me speak carefully --

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:50 AM -0500 3/29/07, Mark Brown wrote: I have experienced some surprises when mixing law and Internet standards. To try to avoid surprises, I have hired IPR attorneys at two different firms to review my draft which proposes a royalty-free license grant. I expect any resulting license will

Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-30 Thread Chris Elliott
While we're tagging attendees, let's get robots to follow them around and give everyone connectivity wherever they are--and track them: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasictaxonomyName=wireless_trends_and_technologiesarticleId=9014819taxonomyId=78 Maybe the

Re: [consensus] comments on draft-housley-aaa-key-mgmt-07.txt

2007-03-30 Thread Sam Hartman
Hi. I had a few discussions in Prague and think that we're all basically on the same page about what the document should say. I'm going to describe that consensus here. I'd like to ask Russ to confirm that the document reflects the consensus and if so to ask me to remove my discuss and

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 30 March, 2007 10:12 -0700 Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:50 AM -0500 3/29/07, Mark Brown wrote: I have experienced some surprises when mixing law and Internet standards. To try to avoid surprises, I have hired IPR attorneys at two different firms to review my

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Just following onto John's note. For whatever it is worth, I think we need to step carefully around the distinction Paul makes above: there are almost certainly circumstances in which we should accept a broader grant of rights conditional on standardization and a narrower one if the technology

RE: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, March 30, 2007 10:12:14 AM -0700 Paul Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:50 AM -0500 3/29/07, Mark Brown wrote: I have experienced some surprises when mixing law and Internet standards. To try to avoid surprises, I have hired IPR attorneys at two different firms to review my

Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-30 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Only if there are multiple, independent, interoperable implementations. Regards Marshall On Mar 30, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Chris Elliott wrote: While we're tagging attendees, let's get robots to follow them around and give everyone connectivity wherever they are--and track them:

Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-30 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, March 30, 2007 02:59:51 PM -0400 Marshall Eubanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only if there are multiple, independent, interoperable implementations. On the contrary, this is one case where we must be careful _not_ to allow interoperability. If the robots could interoperate,

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-30 Thread Sam Hartman
John == John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John I also do not believe that it is appropriate to view John Informational publication as some sort of consolation prize. John If the community, and the IESG, conclude that the document John and its technology should be

WG Action: Conclusion of Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC (pki4ipsec)

2007-03-30 Thread The IESG
The Profiling Use of PKI in IPSEC WG (pki4ipsec) in the Security Area has concluded. The IESG contact persons are Russ Housley, Tim Polk, and Sam Hartman. The mailing list will be closed. The PKI4IPsec WG was chartered to work on three documents. 1) A standards-track document that gives