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Re: [tsv-dir] Re: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Lars Eggert
On 2007-9-6, at 12:01, ext Elisa Boschi wrote: To be specific, how would an application using IPFIX over UDP obtain the packet loss information needed to implement TFRC as recommended in Section 3.1.1 of the UDP guidelines draft? The IPFIX implementation guidelines draft says: The Collecting

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2007-09-06 Thread Dave Aronson
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Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-magma-mgmd-mib(MulticastGroup Membership Discovery MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Julian Chesterfield
Thanks for your email, comments inline Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: Based on the errors/warnings I get from both SMICNG and SMILINT, I wonder how how an IETF Last Call can go out for a MIB module in this shape. I did not look at any MIB details yet. I get this from SMICng: Since

Re: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Elisa Boschi
David, We're getting close, but I think some more work on UDP guidelines is still appropriate. As the existence of the UDP guidelines draft indicates, this is a topic of current interest in the Transport Area. see inline Section 6.2: UDP [2] I don't see any discussion of congestion

Re: [tsv-dir] Re: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Paul Aitken
Lars, On 2007-9-6, at 14:51, ext Paul Aitken wrote: As far as I can see, draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-02 contains no guidance other than: Applications that perform bulk transmission of data (3.1.1) and When applications that exchange only a small number of messages with a

Re: [tsv-dir] Re: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Lars Eggert
Paul, On 2007-9-6, at 14:51, ext Paul Aitken wrote: As far as I can see, draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-02 contains no guidance other than: Applications that perform bulk transmission of data (3.1.1) and When applications that exchange only a small number of messages with a

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-magma-mgmd-mib(MulticastGroup Membership Discovery MIB) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Julian Chesterfield
Looks like there was a misunderstanding on my part r.e. the InetAddressType refinement. The refinement only applies to the InetAddress objects, InetAddressType should be unmodified, apologies for that. I'll issue an update, however AFAIK the other comments still apply. Thanks, Julian Wijnen,

Re: [tsv-dir] Re: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Paul Aitken
Lars, Looking at draft-ietf-tsvwg-udp-guidelines-02, I see TFRC recommended for Bulk Transfer Applications (section 3.1.1). However, I think that netflow and IPFIX export fall into the Low Data-Volume Applications category (section 3.1.2) which says: I don't see IPFIX falling into this

RE: Transport Directorate review of draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-06.txt

2007-09-06 Thread Black_David
Elisa, Most of these responses look fine. I do think additional text should be added on the topics of: - warnings about when not to use unordered delivery - explanation of when UDP use is appropriate More details inline ... Some responses also in line. I have deleted

Re: Last Call: draft-saintandre-jabberid (The Jabber-ID Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Dave Crocker wrote: SM wrote: The Jabber Identifier is associated with the author of the message; see [MESSAGE]. If the From: header field contains more than one mailbox, the Jabber-ID header should not be added to the message. There should be no more than one instance of the Jabber-ID

Re: Last Call: draft-saintandre-jabberid (The Jabber-ID Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Dave Crocker
Peter Saint-Andre wrote: I have no objections to working on a more general approach. Probably Yup. I wasn't criticizing the idea, either. It's just a question of who is trying to satisfy an immediate requirement. that would mean two different header fields: one to encapsulate an im:

Re: Last Call: draft-saintandre-jabberid (The Jabber-ID Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Dave Crocker wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Jabber is to XMPP as email is to SMTP+POP+IMAP. Well, I appreciate the effort, but no. IM is to XMPP as email is to SMTP et al. That would be premature, since Jabber has not yet taken over the IM world in the way that the

Re: Last Call: draft-saintandre-jabberid (The Jabber-ID Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
Tony Finch wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Dave Crocker wrote: Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Jabber is to XMPP as email is to SMTP+POP+IMAP. Well, I appreciate the effort, but no. IM is to XMPP as email is to SMTP et al. That would be premature, since Jabber has not yet taken over the IM world in

Re: Last Call: draft-saintandre-jabberid (The Jabber-ID Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: Tony Finch wrote: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Dave Crocker wrote: IM is to XMPP as email is to SMTP et al. That would be premature, since Jabber has not yet taken over the IM world in the way that the Internet standards have done for email. Right. Jabber

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2007-09-06 Thread Thomas Narten
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Last Call: draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol (Specification of the IPFIX Protocol for the Exchange of IP Traffic Flow Information) to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the IP Flow Information Export WG (ipfix) to consider the following document: - 'Specification of the IPFIX Protocol for the Exchange of IP Traffic Flow Information ' draft-ietf-ipfix-protocol-26.txt as a Proposed Standard A previous version

RFC 5003 on Attachment Individual Identifier (AII) Types for Aggregation

2007-09-06 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5003 Title: Attachment Individual Identifier (AII) Types for Aggregation Author: C. Metz, L. Martini, F. Balus, J. Sugimoto

RFC 5032 on WITHIN Search Extension to the IMAP Protocol

2007-09-06 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5032 Title: WITHIN Search Extension to the IMAP Protocol Author: E. Burger, Ed. Status: Standards Track Date: September 2007

RFC 4964 on The P-Answer-State Header Extension to the Session Initiation Protocol for the Open Mobile Alliance Push to Talk over Cellular

2007-09-06 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4964 Title: The P-Answer-State Header Extension to the Session Initiation Protocol for the Open Mobile Alliance Push to Talk over

RFC 5011 on Automated Updates of DNS Security (DNSSEC) Trust Anchors

2007-09-06 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5011 Title: Automated Updates of DNS Security (DNSSEC) Trust Anchors Author: M. StJohns Status: Standards Track Date: September 2007

RFC 4990 on Use of Addresses in Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks

2007-09-06 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4990 Title: Use of Addresses in Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Networks Author: K. Shiomoto, R. Papneja, R. Rabbat

Protocol Action: 'i;unicode-casemap - Simple Unicode Collation Algorithm' to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'i;unicode-casemap - Simple Unicode Collation Algorithm ' draft-crispin-collation-unicasemap-07.txt as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is

Protocol Action: 'On the Use of Channel Bindings to Secure Channels' to Proposed Standard

2007-09-06 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'On the Use of Channel Bindings to Secure Channels ' draft-williams-on-channel-binding-04.txt as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Sam

70th IETF - Registration

2007-09-06 Thread IETF Secretariat
70th IETF Meeting Vancouver, BC, Canada December 2-7, 2007 Registration is now open for the 70th IETF Meeting! You can register on line at: http://www3.ietf.org/meetings/70-IETF.html REGISTRATION INFORMATION: Early-Bird Registration - USD 700.00 If you register and pay for your attendance to