RE: [secdir] Review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk-09

2007-12-13 Thread Tobias Gondrom
Hello authors and WG chairs, On my review comments from Nov-10, 2007, I did not receive answers to my comments from you, yet. As this draft is planned to be discussed on the IESG telechat, could you please clarify how you intend to answer to these things (correct, reject or whether we shall raise

RE: [secdir] Review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk-09

2007-12-13 Thread Dinesh Mohan
Dear Tobias, First of all apologies for inadvertent delay in response due to various factors (vacation, travel and some sickness). However, the authors will work to address all the comments in a separate email to follow soon. Regards, Dinesh -Original Message- From: Tobias

RE: [secdir] Review of draft-ietf-l2vpn-oam-req-frmk-09

2007-12-13 Thread Tobias Gondrom
Hello authors and WG chairs, On my review comments from Nov-10, 2007, I did not receive answers to my comments from you, yet. As this draft is planned to be discussed on the IESG telechat, could you please clarify how you intend to answer to these things (correct, reject or whether we shall

Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services

2007-12-13 Thread Daniel Brown
On Dec 13, 2007 10:48 AM, Russ Housley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need both physical (power, hardware, location) and operational (different global prefixes, preferably different AS's) diversity for reliable DNS. We knew about this problem, but choose to make the

Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services

2007-12-13 Thread Russ Housley
You need both physical (power, hardware, location) and operational (different global prefixes, preferably different AS's) diversity for reliable DNS. We knew about this problem, but choose to make the announcement anyway. We are in the process of working out a secondary. I got a

DNS when target services are unavailable (was: Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services)

2007-12-13 Thread John C Klensin
I've changed the subject line because, if this turns into a discussion, it will be a different one... --On Wednesday, 12 December, 2007 22:22 -0800 Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... 2. If the machines the DNS entries point to are, themselves, a single point of failure, it's not clear

Re: DNS when target services are unavailable (was: Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services)

2007-12-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:25:27AM -0500, John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 40 lines which said: IMO, it would be really helpful if relevant WGs or other groups concerned with DNS operations and configurations would take the question up again, review it, and make some sort

Re: DNS when target services are unavailable (was: Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services)

2007-12-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 13 December, 2007 17:35 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:25:27AM -0500, John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 40 lines which said: IMO, it would be really helpful if relevant WGs or other groups concerned with

Re: DNS when target services are unavailable

2007-12-13 Thread Dave Crocker
John C Klensin wrote: --On Thursday, 13 December, 2007 17:35 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An important reason why we SHOULD have DNS reliability (including geographical variety) even if service X is down is because there are several services, not just the Web. ...

Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) to Draft Standard (4) (was: Lists and aliases)

2007-12-13 Thread Ned Freed
Ned Freed wrote: keep the MUST for aliases but lose it for lists? I could live with that too but it would probably force a recycle. I'd opt for better standard instead of better status if these choices are in conflict. I question whether they are in conflict. In particular, I question

Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) to Draft Standard (4) (was: Lists and aliases)

2007-12-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 12 December, 2007 17:05 -0800 Ned Freed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer to have a reference to 2822upd, but I suspect this decision dates back to when it wasn't clear that 2822bis was going to get updated more or less at the same time. This is, of course, the sort of

Re: Should the RFC Editor publish an RFC in less than 2 months?

2007-12-13 Thread Russ Housley
The discussion of this topic has died down, so it is time for me to make a consensus call. It is quite clear to me that the community does not want to delay the publication of RFCs. Therefore, in this note, I am asking the RFC Editor to publish RFCs as soon as Auth48 is complete. If there

Re: DNS when target services are unavailable (was: Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services)

2007-12-13 Thread Mark Andrews
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:25:27AM -0500, John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 40 lines which said: IMO, it would be really helpful if relevant WGs or other groups concerned with DNS operations and configurations would take the question up again, review it, and

Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) to Draft Standard (4)

2007-12-13 Thread Frank Ellermann
John C Klensin wrote: [2822 vs. 2822upd] This is, of course, the sort of thing that can be changed in an RFC Editor note if, in fact, 2822 is ready and more or less concurrent. Modifying the reference is simple. Removing various NO-WS-CTL, DEL, and a NUL in 2821bis itself, not inherited

Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) to Draft Standard (4) (was: Lists and aliases)

2007-12-13 Thread Ned Freed
--On Wednesday, 12 December, 2007 17:05 -0800 Ned Freed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would prefer to have a reference to 2822upd, but I suspect this decision dates back to when it wasn't clear that 2822bis was going to get updated more or less at the same time. This is, of course, the

Re: Transitioning IETF DNS services

2007-12-13 Thread Ray Pelletier
Afilias has agreed to provide DNS services to the IETF. What this means is all DNS servers will be dual-homed on both IPv4 and IPv6, and servers will be available in Asia, North America, and Europe as follows: ns1.ams1.afilias-nst.info (Amsterdam) 199.19.48.151 199.19.48.171

IETF Survey December 2007

2007-12-13 Thread Ray Pelletier
This is a short survey about your IETF meeting experiences generally,your interest in specific meeting locations and if you attended IETF 70 your experience in Vancouver. Results will be used to make improvements at future meetings. You can see the results of the survey at the end. Feedback

Retention policy for list's and the processes which show the lists integrity

2007-12-13 Thread TS Glassey
Question for the two lists - Since many of the IETF's operations are physically located in the US those laws constrain the operations of the IETF pretty much... So let me ask this, Since the new Digital Evidence requirements in the US now mandate a much stronger set of management processes,

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2007-12-13 Thread Thomas Narten
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