Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 09 July, 2008 14:25 -0700 Ted Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 2:03 PM -0700 7/9/08, John C Klensin wrote: > >> I propose >> the following as alternative text: > > A nit with this: > > >>"6. Addresses used in I-Ds SHOULD use fully qualified >>domain name

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Keith Moore
John C Klensin wrote: (iii) The IETF has indicated enough times that domain names, not literal addresses, should be used in both protocols and documents that doing anything else should reasonably require clear and strong justification. I take issue with that as

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Ted Hardie
At 2:03 PM -0700 7/9/08, John C Klensin wrote: >I propose >the following as alternative text: A nit with this: >"6. Addresses used in I-Ds SHOULD use fully qualified >domain names (FQDNs) instead of literal IP addresses. >Working Groups or authors seeing exemptions from

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, 09 July, 2008 10:19 -0400 Thomas Narten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And on the particular question of example DNS names: > > >> 6. Addresses used in examples SHOULD use fully qualified >> domain names instead of literal IP addresses, and SHOULD use >> example fqdn's such

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Keith Moore
6. Addresses used in examples SHOULD use fully qualified domain names instead of literal IP addresses, and SHOULD use example fqdn's such as foo.example.com instead of real-world fqdn's. See [RFC2606] (Eastlake, D. and A. Panitz, "Reserved Top Level DNS Names," June 1999.) for e

Re: Need some IPv6 help wiht RHEL/Centos 5

2008-07-09 Thread Marc Manthey
hi Robert, i would recommend IRC #ipv6 at freenode.net , about 100 people hangout there , some experts also;) good luck Marc Am 09.07.2008 um 21:46 schrieb Robert Moskowitz: IPv6 delegation now up on my PPPoE link. Next to get internal routing and discovery working My ISP is read

Re: Need some IPv6 help wiht RHEL/Centos 5

2008-07-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
IPv6 delegation now up on my PPPoE link. Next to get internal routing and discovery working Robert Moskowitz wrote: My ISP is ready to give me an IPv6 allocation. Prefix is all ready to go, all I have to do is get PPPoE for Centos 5.2 configured right. Then I set up IP6tables to get the a

Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?

2008-07-09 Thread Ted Faber
On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 12:54:24PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: > > I don't "want" anything in this space. I don't care if the root's > > unchanged or as wide as .com. > > There was a clear decision to move from a single label > hostnames to multiple label hostnames (RFC 921). You are

More example TLDs in 2606bis? (was: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist)

2008-07-09 Thread Frank Ellermann
Bill McQuillan wrote: > I wonder if it would make it easier to use "example" DNS > names if, in addition to the verbose and clumsy: "*.example", > IMHO, we reserved gTLDs like "*.foo", "*.bar", "*.bat", > "*.baz", as well as the one used quite frequently on this > list lately: "*.tld", for use as

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Spencer Dawkins
hi, bill, I wonder if it would make it easier to use "example" DNS names if, in addition to the verbose and clumsy: "*.example", IMHO, we reserved gTLDs like "*.foo", "*.bar", "*.bat", "*.baz", as well as the one used quite frequently on this list lately: "*.tld", for use as example DNS names.

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 9:37 AM -0700 7/9/08, Bill McQuillan wrote: I wonder if it would make it easier to use "example" DNS names if, in addition to the verbose and clumsy: "*.example", IMHO, we reserved gTLDs like "*.foo", "*.bar", "*.bat", "*.baz", as well as the one used quite frequently on this list lately: "*.t

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Bill McQuillan
On Wed, 2008-07-09, Spencer Dawkins wrote: > If an example describes a complex network topology, it could be > appropriate to use a variety of names, IP addresses or prefixes that are > easily disambiguated, so that the reader might follow the example more > easily. I wonder if it would make i

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Dear IESG, From the discussion just prior to the recent appeal by John Klensin, it was clear that the guidance regarding example domain names in IETF documents provided in the ID-Checklist needed to be updated. This point was emphasized further during the discussion of the Klensin appeal. Propo

Regarding missing an object in pwAtmCfgTable (draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-atm-mib-05.txt)

2008-07-09 Thread Murugesan Ramalingam
Hi All, I have a query in the draft Managed Objects for ATM over Packet Switched Network (draft-ietf-pwe3-pw-atm-mib-05.txt) mentioned below. Can you please reply to that as early as possible. The pwAtmCfgTable consists of MaxCellConctenation, FarEndMaxCellConcatenation, Timeout mode and C

Re: Call for review of proposed update to ID-Checklist

2008-07-09 Thread Thomas Narten
John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > While I agree, I believe that it would be of great help if the > IESG gave indications of the situations in which an exception > to a "SHOULD" would be appropriate. Yes. And on the particular question of example DNS names: > 6. Addresses used in e

Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?

2008-07-09 Thread Joe Touch
Mark Andrews wrote: ... "hk" is not a legal fully qualified host name. Agreed. "hk.", however, is. No, it is not a legal hostname. RFC 952 explicitly excludes trailing periods. RFC 952 is not a standard. Joe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature _

Re: Update of RFC 2606 based on the recent ICANN changes ?

2008-07-09 Thread Bill Manning
On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 02:34:59PM -0700, Ted Faber wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 05:11:35PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote: > > And vanity TLDs are going to be much more attractive if people think > > they can get single-label host names out of them. > > Of your concerns (which I don't have the rel