Re: Comments requested on recent appeal to the IESG

2009-02-20 Thread John Levine
http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/appeal-otis-2009-02-16.txt This appeal boils down to someone might misuse it so don't standardize it. Is there any standard to which someone couldn't have made a similar objection? Much of the bad stuff they say about SPF and Sender-ID is correct, but it'll

Re: [Trustees] Last Call for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-02-20 Thread Ray Pelletier
On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: When will http://xml.resource.org/ and xml2rfc be updated to include this? It is in work. A precise date is uncertain today, but is anticipated early next week. Are there any changes we need to make to our input xml files?

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2009-02-20 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:31:23 -0800 (PST), The IESG wrote: The IESG has received an appeal regarding the previously approved draft-kucherawy-sender-auth-header-20. The appeal text can be found here: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/APPEALS/appeal-otis-2009-02-16.txt [...] I am the author of the

Re: [Trustees] Last Call for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-02-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, February 20, 2009 10:57 -0500 Ray Pelletier rpellet...@isoc.org wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: When will http://xml.resource.org/ and xml2rfc be updated to include this? It is in work. A precise date is uncertain today, but is

Re: [Trustees] Last Call for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem

2009-02-20 Thread Ray Pelletier
On Feb 20, 2009, at 3:20 PM, John C Klensin wrote: --On Friday, February 20, 2009 10:57 -0500 Ray Pelletier rpellet...@isoc.org wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Wes Beebee (wbeebee) wrote: When will http://xml.resource.org/ and xml2rfc be updated to include this? It is in work.

IASA irresponsibility? (was: Re: [IAB] [Trustees] Last Call for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem)

2009-02-20 Thread John C Klensin
Ray, The expectation in that January discussion was that the Trustees and IAOC were going to be proactive about this and take responsibility to make sure things got done. I don't consider your notifying the volunteers and asking for a schedule to be consistent with that. They are, after all,

RE: IASA irresponsibility? (was: Re: [IAB] [Trustees] LastCall for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem)

2009-02-20 Thread Ed Juskevicius
John, this is to respond to one of your points, below: As far as the where does it go question, the answer may be clear to you, but it apparently was not clear to the Trustee Chair (and poster of the announcement) who, according to comments on the XML2RFC list, apparently indicated that it

Re: [IAB] IASA irresponsibility? (was: Re: [Trustees] LastCall for Comments: Proposed work-around to the Pre-5378 Problem)

2009-02-20 Thread John C Klensin
Ed, I very much appreciate the clarification. And, yes, I was relying on my impression of what someone else reported on the list, not on anything I heard directly from you. Of course, that does not make me any happier with the relationship between what I thought were commitments to have tools,

Re: appeal-otis-2009-02-16

2009-02-20 Thread J.D. Falk
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: As there are no new issues raised by this appeal, I respectfully request that the appeal be dismissed. +1 -- J.D. Falk Return Path Inc http://www.returnpath.net/ ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

RE: Comments requested on recent appeal to the IESG

2009-02-20 Thread Stephen Kent
At 9:00 PM -0800 2/19/09, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=_=_NextPart_001_01C99318.3582B8D8 Just as a matter of observation, there is not and never has been a security requirement to rigidly

Re: Comments requested on recent appeal to the IESG

2009-02-20 Thread Dave CROCKER
Stephen Kent wrote: At 9:00 PM -0800 2/19/09, Hallam-Baker, Phillip wrote: Just as a matter of observation, ... ... I have not read the doc in question,... Hey guys. As someone who is frequently faced with trying to parse out what are and are not the commonly held views among