Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 29 jun 2009, at 23:32, Andrew Sullivan wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 01:37:31PM -0700, David Morris wrote: 1000 years from now, it will certainly be easier to recover content from an ascii 'file' than an html, xml, or pdf 'file' created now. It is probably an unjustified assumption that

RE: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
The TXT versions do not print on my printer and have not printed reliably on any printer I have ever owned. I discovered by accident that, on my machine, simply opening a text version in Microsoft Word gives a document which prints properly, page breaks and all. (10 point Courier I think.)

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: I remain heartily fed up that the HTML versions of documents that I know were submitted with XML source are not available, nor is the XML source. The TXT versions do not print on my printer and have not printed reliably on any printer I have ever owned. just an

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 30 jun 2009, at 12:38, Harald Alvestrand wrote: the way I've found that works reliably these days for printing I-Ds and RFCs is to load them into OpenOffice's editor (oowriter) and use print from there. Somehow, OpenOffice managed to understand the formfeed character. On the Mac you

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Melinda Shore
Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On the Mac you can still use lpr file but unfortunately the formfeeds get lost when you do that. I use enscript. Melinda ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Please do not insult other people's abilities. The fact that some of us can find something more fun to do than get a document without embeded form feeds to print properly does not mean that we are less expert than you. If a grad student handed me a paper to review formatted in RFC format I would

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
It is not the height of the barrier, it is the perception that people are making nit-picking objections for the sake of rubbing people's noses in the fact that they can decide where to put the bar. If this was about really about quality or readability I would be a lot more sympathetic. But when a

OPS-DIR review of draft-ietf-speermint-requirements

2009-06-30 Thread Bernard Aboba
I reviewed the document draft-ietf-speermint-requirements-07.txt in general and for its operational impact. Operations directorate reviews are solicited primarily to help the area directors improve their efficiency, particularly when preparing for IESG telechats, and allowing them to focus on

Possible TLP discussion list

2009-06-30 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; I am writing this to see what people think about creating a tlp- discuss mailing list. While I hope that the need for TLP revisions will diminish after the current round is completed, it seems to several of the other Trustees and to me that it might be a good idea to have an open

Re: Possible TLP discussion list

2009-06-30 Thread Ray Pelletier
The TLP is the Trust Legal Provisions relating to IETF Documents. The current TLP is located here: http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info/ These Legal Provisions describe the rights and licenses that the IETF Trust grants to others with respect to IETF Contributions and IETF Documents; as

Bidders Announced for RFC Production Center RFP

2009-06-30 Thread IETF Administrative Director
The IAOC received three proposals in response to the RFC Production Center RFP by the 5:00 PM EDT deadline on June 29, 2009. The proposers include: 1. Association Management Solutions, LLC www.amsl.com 2. HCL Technologies Ltd., www.hcl.in 3. Wipro Limited, www.wipro.com The IAOC anticipates

Re: More liberal draft formatting standards required

2009-06-30 Thread james woodyatt
On Jun 29, 2009, at 16:22, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: It is not the height of the barrier, it is the perception that people are making nit-picking objections for the sake of rubbing people's noses in the fact that they can decide where to put the bar. In the more traditional publishing

Gen-ART LC Review of draft-iana-special-ipv4-registry-01

2009-06-30 Thread Ben Campbell
I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document:

Transition to new website postponed to Friday, July 17th

2009-06-30 Thread Alexa Morris
As announced previously, the revamped IETF website was scheduled to go live this Monday, July 6th. However, given that the .00 version Internet Draft deadline is also on Monday, we decided to postpone the switchover to avoid the possibility, however slim, that I-D submissions would be

Gen-ART LC Review of draft-iana-special-ipv4-registry-01

2009-06-30 Thread Ben Campbell
(oops, forgot the gen-art list. Sorry for the repeat.) I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last

Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-l3vpn-as4octet-ext-community-03

2009-06-30 Thread Ben Campbell
I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document:

Bidders Announced for RFC Production Center RFP

2009-06-30 Thread IETF Administrative Director
The IAOC received three proposals in response to the RFC Production Center RFP by the 5:00 PM EDT deadline on June 29, 2009. The proposers include: 1. Association Management Solutions, LLC www.amsl.com 2. HCL Technologies Ltd., www.hcl.in 3. Wipro Limited, www.wipro.com The IAOC anticipates

Transition to new website postponed to Friday, July 17th

2009-06-30 Thread Alexa Morris
As announced previously, the revamped IETF website was scheduled to go live this Monday, July 6th. However, given that the .00 version Internet Draft deadline is also on Monday, we decided to postpone the switchover to avoid the possibility, however slim, that I-D submissions would be

RFC 5576 on Source-Specific Media Attributes in the Session Description Protocol (SDP)

2009-06-30 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5576 Title: Source-Specific Media Attributes in the Session Description Protocol (SDP) Author: J. Lennox, J. Ott, T. Schierl

RFC 5592 on Secure Shell Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)

2009-06-30 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5592 Title: Secure Shell Transport Model for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Author: D. Harrington, J. Salowey, W. Hardaker

RFC 5590 on Transport Subsystem for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP)

2009-06-30 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5590 Title: Transport Subsystem for the Simple Network Management Protocol (SNMP) Author: D. Harrington, J. Schoenwaelder Status: Standards Track