Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-sasl-scram

2009-09-26 Thread Simon Josefsson
Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com writes: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 02:00:58PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: I'm hesitant to bring this up because it has so many other concerns, but if you are looking for alternatives, another one is to flag the normalization algorithm used in the

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-26 Thread Dean Willis
Ole Jacobsen wrote: On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Eric Rescorla wrote: So, this isn't really that useful context for the rest of the paragraph. To take the example of encryption, I think people were arguing that it was a topic regarding human rights. With that said, it's not clear to me that

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-26 Thread Dave CROCKER
Dean Willis wrote: The question: does meeting in China do more to further the goal of getting past PRC (and others) deplorable policies than does meeting elsewhere AND LETTING THE WORLD KNOW WHY WE ARE NOT MEETING IN CHINA. Dean, Sorry, but that is very much *not* the question. As a group

Re: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-26 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Dean Willis wrote: Because China's policy on censoring the Internet sucks, and we have a moral and ethical responsibility to make the Internet available despite that policy. If this requires technology changes, then that technology is within our purview. If it

RE: Request for community guidance on issue concerning a future meeting of the IETF

2009-09-26 Thread Ross Callon
Regarding the potential clause in the contract that has caused this discussion, which includes the text: ... Should there be any financial loss incurred to the Hotel or damage caused to the Hotel's reputation as a result of any or all of the above acts, the Hotel will claim