Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18

2010-01-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Spencer Dawkins spen...@wonderhamster.org writes: Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as a Proposed Standard. I did have one minor question about 13.3 (in my LATE review), but it should not be difficult to resolve, if an AD agrees with my question. Hi Spencer. Thank you

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18

2010-01-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com writes: In particular, the current consensus of the SASL community appears to be that SASL security layers (i.e., confidentiality and integrity protection of application data after authentication) are too complex and, since SASL applications

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-sasl-gs2-18

2010-01-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com writes: The I-D says: The original GSS-API-SASL mechanism bridge was specified by [RFC], now [RFC4752]; we shall sometimes refer to the original bridge as GS1 in this document. I

RE: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Herve Taddei
With regard to this proposed WG, I have some comments on the sentences at its beginning: According to reports from developers of Internet audio applications and operators of Internet audio services, there are no standardized, high-quality audio codecs that meet all of the following three

Re: Last Call: draft-allbery-afs-srv-records (DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-08 Thread Cyrus Daboo
Hi, --On January 8, 2010 7:28:51 AM -0800 The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS ' draft-allbery-afs-srv-records-03.txt as a Proposed Standard This spec

RE: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Herve Taddei
Hi Christian, Then perhaps it is good to specify that this WG is not going to look to narrowband and wideband but only to Superwideband and Fullband. That could be specified in that paragraph. The name IWAC (Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)) could be misleading if wideband is not going to be

RFC Editor Transition Announcement

2010-01-08 Thread Glen
Greetings All and Happy New Year, With the new year comes the RFC Editor production and publisher function transition from USC/ISI to AMS as the new RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher. ISI and AMS have been working diligently behind the scenes to make this transition process as seamless as

RE: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Herve Taddei
What do you mean by this is work we have done before? At least it has never been the case in IETF, if that was the case why were there all these discussions that IETF do not have the expertise to do that work? There have been some activities to rubberstamp some codecs (iLBC, Speex following some

AW: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Christian Hoene
Dear Herve, According to reports from developers of Internet audio applications and operators of Internet audio services, there are no standardized, high-quality audio codecs that meet all of the following three conditions: 1. Are optimized for use in interactive Internet applications. 2.

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Herve Taddei wrote: What do you mean by this is work we have done before? At least it has never been the case in IETF, if that was the case why were there all these discussions that IETF do not have the expertise to do that work? There have been some activities to rubberstamp some codecs

Re: WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:46 -0500 Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: ... I do not think that anyone wants the outcome to be yet another encumbered codec. I think these words are trying to say what you want, but they are also trying to be realistic. Does the following text

Re: Last Call: draft-allbery-afs-srv-records (DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-08 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
--On Friday, January 08, 2010 07:28:51 AM -0800 The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS ' draft-allbery-afs-srv-records-03.txt as a Proposed Standard I

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: RE: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) Date: Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 04:40:05PM +0100 Quoting Herve Taddei (herve.tad...@huawei.com): I think it was already pointed out a few times (at least see email from Ingemar Johannson in November 2009), that this part needs to

Re: Last Call: draft-peterson-rai-rfc3427bis (Change Process for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-08 Thread The IESG
The IESG approved publication of this document, and then the RFC Editor noticed that it should have been approved as a BCP not a Proposed Standard. If you have any concerns with this document being published as a BCP, please send a message stating your reasons to i...@ietf.org in the next few

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Russ Housley
Good improvement. I'd go a slide bit further: Although this preference cannot guarantee that the working group will produce an unencumbered codec, the working group shall follow BCP 79, and adhere to the spirit of BCP 79. The working group cannot explicitly rule out the possibility

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Adrian Farrel
adapting or adopting? - Original Message - From: Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com Cc: co...@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org; i...@ietf.org Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec) Good improvement. I'd go a slide bit

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Spencer Dawkins
I would have guessed adopting (nice catch. I missed it completely). but other than this, I wanted to say that Russ's new formula seemed more in synch with what I've been seeing on this list - much stronger than will try (would be nice). Thanks, Spencer - Original Message - From:

Re: [codec] WG Review: Internet Wideband Audio Codec (codec)

2010-01-08 Thread Jean-Marc Valin
I like that. On 2010-01-08 18:14, Russ Housley wrote: Good improvement. I'd go a slide bit further: Although this preference cannot guarantee that the working group will produce an unencumbered codec, the working group shall follow BCP 79, and adhere to the spirit of BCP 79. The working group

Last Call: draft-allbery-afs-srv-records (DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-08 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'DNS SRV Resource Records for AFS ' draft-allbery-afs-srv-records-03.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

Re: Last Call: draft-peterson-rai-rfc3427bis (Change Process for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP)) to Proposed Standard

2010-01-08 Thread The IESG
The IESG approved publication of this document, and then the RFC Editor noticed that it should have been approved as a BCP not a Proposed Standard. If you have any concerns with this document being published as a BCP, please send a message stating your reasons to i...@ietf.org in the next few