Bob Hinden [mailto://bob.hin...@gmail.com] writes:
During my IAOC chair plenary talk at IETF78 (slides are in the
proceedings) I asked a question about continuing the current meeting
policy (3 in North America, 2 in Europe, 1 in Asia in two year period
(3-2-1) ) or changing to a 1-1-1 policy
Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca writes:
Michael == Michael StJohns mstjo...@comcast.net writes:
Michael Fred said this much more eloquently than I could.
Michael On the IETF78 attendees list there's been a lot of
Michael discussion about where to meet - with the primary
Agreed. On several evening, the 20 minute walk into the city centre or back
provided a refreshing opportunity to talk to somebody whom otherwise I might
hardly have spoken to.
John
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Michael Richardson [mailto://m...@sandelman.ca] writes:
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Michael == Michael StJohns mstjo...@comcast.net writes:
Michael Fred said this much more eloquently than I could.
Michael On the IETF78 attendees list there's been a lot of
Michael discussion about where to meet -
Mark,
On 8/9/10 2:41 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
I don't subscribe to the notion that shutting everyone into a confererence
centre-cum-campus with all amenities onsite (and a corresponding dearth of
other options, e.g. Minneapolis or Anaheim) is going to lead to higher
productivity.
I
I'm more in favor the 3-2-1 model. The stats clearly show that the largest
group of repeat offenders comes from the US.
But either way, I also agree that Europe is the summer is not ideal. in the US
there's much less of the vacances phenomenon.
So how about:
- March in Europe
- July in N
On Aug 9, 2010, at 2:48 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote:
Michael Richardson m...@sandelman.ca writes:
Michael == Michael StJohns mstjo...@comcast.net writes:
Michael Fred said this much more eloquently than I could.
Michael On the IETF78 attendees list there's been a lot of
Michael
Dear Eliot;
On Aug 9, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
Mark,
On 8/9/10 2:41 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
I don't subscribe to the notion that shutting everyone into a confererence
centre-cum-campus with all amenities onsite (and a corresponding dearth of
other options, e.g. Minneapolis
Hi Marshall,
Dear Eliot;
Was this in the Hyderabad International Convention Centre,
http://www.hicc.com/ ?
Yes.
Some years ago I looked at this center for the IAOC - a wonderful convention
center, but at the time
there were not nearly enough hotels nearby for an IETF meeting. Has this
On 8/8/10 11:48 PM, Simon Josefsson wrote:
Yeah, I'm all for meeting in Europe once a year, but does it have to be
in the peak of Summer? Seriously. As long as I'm in a hotel conference
centre all day, I might as well be north of the Artic Circle in November.
+1. Peak of summer happens to
On Aug 9, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
Hi Marshall,
Dear Eliot;
Was this in the Hyderabad International Convention Centre,
http://www.hicc.com/ ?
Yes.
Some years ago I looked at this center for the IAOC - a wonderful convention
center, but at the time
there were not
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 02:14:56PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote:
In Maastricht you had that big central room with uncomfortable
chairs and pretty much no reason to be there if you weren't using
the internet or weren't either going to or coming from a WG session.
I saw few random gatherings
On Aug 8, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Simon Josefsson wrote:
+1. Peak of summer happens to be peak of vacation time for many europeans,
and making room for an IETF conference during vacation periods can be
difficult even if it is in the same continent.
Peak of summer is when Americans with
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 07:27:23AM +0300, Yoav Nir wrote:
Asia is big. Some parts of Asia (the middle east and the eastern
parts of Russia) are closer to Europe than to China, Japan or Korea,
at least as far as traveling goes.
North America is big, too. Travelling to Anaheim was not a great
On 9 Aug 2010, at 16:12, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
Since we're providing anecdotal data, I'll mention that for me the big
central room in Maastrict turned out to provide far greater
cross-fertilization than I got in Anaheim.
+1
I actually thought the Anaheim venue was really poor for this, and
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On 8/8/10 11:48 PM, Simon Josefsson wrote:
it also means conference facilities have availability, just a small
detail of course. notwitstadning the fact that if you've got 3 evening
spaced meetings per year one of them is going to fall in that period.
Joel Jaeggli wrote:
Depending on the popularity of your working group and the extent to
which the meeting itself is timeshifted from the vantage point of the
bulk of the remote participants, as much as 10% of of the partficipants
might be remote, generally less, almost never more.
There is
On 8/9/10 9:51 AM, Martin Rex wrote:
Unfortunately, for IETF78, I was blocked from the audiostream, because
it was served through a port _other_ than 80/443, so it was unaccessible
through our company firewall. I would appreciate if the audio streams
would be served through port 80 again on
On Aug 9, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Martin Rex wrote:
Joel Jaeggli wrote:
as much as 10% of of the partficipants might be remote, generally less,
almost never more.
There is a difference in the effectiveness of remote vs. on-premise
participation.
I don't think anyone disputes this (or even
Jari,
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 12:31:02AM +0300, Jari Arkko wrote:
I think we should not over-analyze the selection process too much. I
support 1-1-1 because its a simple model, it feels right, and
because I believe general IETF participation is headed towards the
1-1-1 model even if we are
Yoav == Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com writes:
Yoav I'm more in favor the 3-2-1 model. The stats clearly show that the
largest group of repeat offenders comes from the US.
Yoav But either way, I also agree that Europe is the summer is not ideal.
in the US there's much less of the
Fred Baker f...@cisco.com writes:
On Aug 8, 2010, at 11:48 PM, Simon Josefsson wrote:
+1. Peak of summer happens to be peak of vacation time for many europeans,
and making room for an IETF conference during vacation periods can be
difficult even if it is in the same continent.
Peak of
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