Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Richard Bennett
I don't think that burying IETF's collective head in the sand is a very good option, Richard. The IETF chairman is on the public record with a misleading statement that reflects neither the IETF consensus nor the content of the DiffServ RFCs. The FCC has launched a specific inquiry into DiffS

RE: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Richard Shockey
Enough.. can we go back to travel tips now? -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Richard Bennett Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2010 6:02 PM To: Livingood, Jason Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Richard Bennett
It seems to me that Russ should have said something like this: "IETF develops technical standards. Our DiffServ standard enables applications to communicate their requirements for specialized treatment to edge networks and for networks to aggregate packets requiring similar treatment at netwo

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Livingood, Jason
>>This sounds like there is potential for crowd sourcing here. >> >> For example, I can tell you nothing about Vonage, but a fair >> amount about Cox Cable Internet. What you want to know is >> known, just not (yet) in a way you can easily access. >> >> Would a Yelp type model be appropriate ? >

Re: My comments to the press about RFC 2474

2010-09-04 Thread Livingood, Jason
>He's not saying that. He's effectively saying what I'm saying: payment >models are outside the scope of the standards, which don't require any >particular payment model in order to perform their job. +1 to that. It seems the press struggles to understand that the IETF does technical standards an

Re: Tools logins -- Aaaargh!

2010-09-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
On 09/03/2010 03:36 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: We've had as a goal for some time to move to having the same login/pw for both the datatracker and the tools pages; I think we'll have to try to move forward with that plan in order to handle the situation, rather than the quick fix proposed above.