Re: Poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:38 PM, Fred Baker wrote: On Jan 10, 2011, at 5:56 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: You can go, read the poster and formulate opinions and questions independently of anyone else, including the author. If there is a time when the author is supposed to be present, you can

Re: Poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, January 11, 2011 09:32 +0200 Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com wrote: We can have as high a barrier as necessary to ensure there are no more than, say, 12 posters. Yes, but that is another aspect of why I don't want to go down this path. As soon as you say high barrier, you imply

Re: I-D Action:draft-white-tsvwg-netblt-00.txt

2011-01-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Saturday, January 08, 2011 07:37 -0800 Lixia Zhang li...@cs.ucla.edu wrote: I am not sure why this rush to get a new internet draft out, without consultation to any of its original authors, and given the rough consensus on ietf mailing list discussion is to keep NETBLT RFC as is

SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 10/Jan/11 23:38, Fred Baker wrote: Personally, call me stuck-in-the-mud, but this isn't an academic conference in which grad students are advertising for a professor that might be interested in mentoring them or a sponsor might fund their research. This is an SDO, and internet drafts are

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Eric Burger
Speaking personally, with none of my official hats on, I would offer the IETF is *only* an SDO. There are no sponsoring organizations, because the IETF is a collection of individuals. No sponsor needed. For that matter, some individuals consider some sponsors toxic, so sometimes having a

Re: Old transport-layer protocols to Historic?

2011-01-11 Thread t.petch
- Original Message - From: Brian F. G. Bidulock bidul...@openss7.org To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com Cc: Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com; ts...@ietf.org; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:06 AM Mykyta, RDP is still in use (I know of companies

Re: Draft Review Request - IRTP IANA Considerations

2011-01-11 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
11.01.2011 13:28, t.petch wrote: - Original Message - From: Mykyta Yevstifeyevevniki...@gmail.com To: Joe Touchto...@isi.edu Cc: t.petchie...@btconnect.com;go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:24 AM Joe, 2011/1/10, Joe Touchto...@isi.edu: On 1/7/2011 9:16 PM,

Re: Old transport-layer protocols to Historic?

2011-01-11 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
11.01.2011 13:36, t.petch wrote: - Original Message - From: Brian F. G. Bidulockbidul...@openss7.org To: Mykyta Yevstifeyevevniki...@gmail.com Cc: Bob Hindenbob.hin...@gmail.com;ts...@ietf.org; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 9:06 AM Mykyta, RDP is still

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Ted Ts'o
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:24:37PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely wrote: My ignorance of IETF's inner functioning is so deep that I cannot even tell what is the equivalent of a mentoring professor or a sponsoring organization within the IETF, let alone finding one. As an Internet user, I may have a

Re: IAB and INT Area Workshop on Interconnecting Smart Objects with the Internet

2011-01-11 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
What are the IPR constraints here? On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:08 AM, Hannes Tschofenig hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net wrote: The Internet Architecture Board and the IETF Internet Area will hold a workshop on the Friday, 25th March 2011 in Prague on the topic: Interconnecting Smart

RE: IAB and INT Area Workshop on Interconnecting Smart Objects withthe Internet

2011-01-11 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
Hi Phillip, What are the IPR constraints here? Note well does not apply. That's how I handled it with other workshops as well. I wanted to explicitly point to this at the beginning of the workshop but it could be useful to put it on the webpage. I was just worried that it will confuse people

Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread t.petch
tn3270 is a widely used protocol but also a venerable one, so it is a little surprising that the IETF is to register a provisional URI for it at this stage. I have always seen it as an IBM protocol, and while that is no bar to being an RFC - there are plenty of Cisco or Microsoft parallels - I am

RE: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTSI)
At issue though is that these individuals get paid (sponsored) by someone, either directly or indirectly by corporations and/or governments. -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric Burger Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 7:27 AM To:

Re: IAB and INT Area Workshop on Interconnecting Smart Objects with the Internet

2011-01-11 Thread Polk, William T.
Phillip, Are you asking if the IETF¹s disclosure rules apply? I believe they do. Presentation or participation in the workshop would seem to satisfy the second part of the definition of an IETF Contribution as stated in RFC 3979: c. IETF Contribution: ³... and any statement made within

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: t.petch daedu...@btconnect.com To: Mykyta Yevstifeyev evniki...@gmail.com; IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Cc: iesg i...@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12 The provenance of the editor is unknown to me -

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: DOLLY, MARTIN C (ATTSI) md3...@att.com To: Eric Burger ebur...@standardstrack.com; Alessandro Vesely ves...@tana.it Cc: ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 4:34 AM Subject: RE: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions At issue though is that these individuals

Re: SDO vs academic conference, was poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:35 -0800 Randy Presuhn randy_pres...@mindspring.com wrote: At issue though is that these individuals get paid (sponsored) by someone, either directly or indirectly by corporations and/or governments. Not necessarily. Some of us have no employer and just

Re: Poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread Michael StJohns
Fred said: Personally, call me stuck-in-the-mud, but this isn't an academic conference in which grad students are advertising for a professor that might be interested in mentoring them or a sponsor might fund their research. Ted said: But you have to bring your own engineering talent. It's

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-08

2011-01-11 Thread Tobias Gondrom
Dear Ben, thank you very much for your thorough review of xmlers. I corrected nearly all of the items you raised and sent the revised version to my co-authors for approval and publication as version -10. On a note of further language style improvement beyond your comments, the AD advised us at

Re: Poster sessions

2011-01-11 Thread J.D. Falk
On Jan 10, 2011, at 2:38 PM, Fred Baker wrote: I'm envisioning the process and requirements of the poster sessions. In terms of process, today if I post a -00 draft to a working group, I can generally get discussion during the coming IETF meeting. What I think this suggests is that instead

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread SM
At 08:29 11-01-11, t.petch wrote: The provenance of the editor is unknown to me - and of course, once an RFC has been through the IETF processes, then the editorship is an irrelevance - but I am concerned that I have no awareness of the contact provided as the scheme 'Author/Change controller',

Re: Last Call On draft-yevstifeyev-tn3270-uri-12

2011-01-11 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
Dear all, I think that if there is an objetion of many people, that would be OK if we put the IETF as author and IESG as contact. This, I think, will be considered as appropriate for this ocasion. Moreover, if I do not want to provide my contact data except email to the community, that is my

**Tutorial** on Interconnecting Smart Objects with the Internet

2011-01-11 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, In case you have not read through the announcement text I wanted to draw your attention to the tutorial day (Saturday, 26th March 2011) that is attached to the workshop. The tutorials are open for everyone BUT there are two constraints: 1) We have to limit the number of

Protocol Action: 'The Trickle Algorithm' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-roll-trickle-08.txt)

2011-01-11 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'The Trickle Algorithm' (draft-ietf-roll-trickle-08.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL of

Last Call: draft-turner-akf-algs-update-02.txt (Elliptic Curve Algorithms for Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) Asymmetric Key Package Content Type) to Proposed Standard

2011-01-11 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Elliptic Curve Algorithms for Cryptographic Message Syntax (CMS) Asymmetric Key Package Content Type' draft-turner-akf-algs-update-02.txt as a Proposed Standard This document includes

Protocol Action: 'A Mixer Control Package for the Media Control Channel Framework' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mediactrl-mixer-control-package-14.txt)

2011-01-11 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'A Mixer Control Package for the Media Control Channel Framework' (draft-ietf-mediactrl-mixer-control-package-14.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Media Server Control Working Group. The IESG contact persons are