Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email

2011-07-31 Thread Hector Santos
You continue to not comprehend (or rather ignore) what continues to plaque DKIM - the lack of fault detection. Its why it continues to have a hard time and have people who actually believe in this promising protocol bitch about it. If these big email providers (or anyone for that matter)

A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

2011-07-31 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
Howdy, First I'd like to thank the organizers for IETF-81 for another well-run meeting. The logistics and coordination for such an event must be daunting, and I know we (the attendees) tend to focus on the negatives rather than the positives... but we really are thankful for all the time and

Re: A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

2011-07-31 Thread Eric Burger
I don't think I have seen a proposal like this before. I really like it, as there are a bunch of post-IETF stuff, some of which starts in the afternoon and thus conflicts with the IETF. This fixes that problem, enables us to have the same amount of meeting time, and potentially lets people get

Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-07-31 Thread RJ Atkinson
On 31st July 2011, Brian Carpenter wrote, in part: I believe that the present situation is confusing both to IETF newcomers (who may falsely believe that the IETF actually follows the 3 stage process) and, worse, confusing to users of IETF standards (who may falsely believe that a document

Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-07-31 Thread Eric Burger
On Jul 31, 2011, at 11:55 AM, RJ Atkinson wrote: On 31st July 2011, Brian Carpenter wrote, in part: [snip] It might cause a change, simply because the effort of making the single move PS-IS will get you to the end state, whereas previously you had to make two efforts, PS-DS-STD. But only

RE: A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

2011-07-31 Thread Richard Shockey
+1 to that as well ..an excellent proposal. -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eric Burger Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:48 AM To: Hadriel Kaplan Cc: IETF-Discussion list Subject: Re: A modest proposal for Friday meeting schedule

Re: 6to4 damages the Internet (was Re:

2011-07-31 Thread Mark Atwood
Masataka Ohta mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp: Moreover, unlike nat64, nat44 can be fully transparent end to end. Some people may consider it a feature that only incumbents with power and money can usefully call listen(), and that useful user to user activities requires the cooperation of an

Re: draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-07-31 Thread Scott O Bradner
it looks so - maybe it would be good to have a pointer in this doc Scott On Jul 28, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Robert Sparks wrote: Scott - Didn't RFC 5657 address your point 2? The current proposal no longer requires this report during advancement, but it does not disallow it. I hope it's

Re: IAOC: delegating ex-officio responsibility

2011-07-31 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-07-27 00:52, Olaf Kolkman wrote: Dear Colleagues, Based on the discussion I've updated the draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kolkman-iasa-ex-officio-membership Essentially I incorporated Dave Crocker's proposal to 1) replace the 'chairs' by voting members appointed

tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-karp-threats-reqs-03

2011-07-31 Thread Yoshifumi Nishida
Hello folks, I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were written primarily for the transport area directors, but are copied to the document's authors for their information and to allow them to address any

Re: 6to4 damages the Internet (was Re:

2011-07-31 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Atwood wrote: Moreover, unlike nat64, nat44 can be fully transparent end to end. Some people may consider it a feature that only incumbents with power and money can usefully call listen(), and that useful user to user activities requires the cooperation of an intrusive 3rd party, while