Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/9/2011 9:52 PM, Wes Hardaker wrote: On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:58:32 +0700, Glen Zorn g...@net-zen.net said: GZ In any case, a taxi from any of the hotels on the list would today GZ cost $3 (probably closer to $2) one way. I'd argue that group shuttles, as has been done in the past, is

Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/10/2011 5:12 AM, Dean Willis wrote: ... Y'all come on down to Dallas. It was 39C while I was walking the dog last night, down from the daily peak of about 44C. We're looking forward to October, when the highs should drop to 32C. And the lows to around zero pack a sweater. And

Re: The fallacy of perfection (Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email)

2011-08-10 Thread SM
Hi Carsten, At 11:46 09-08-2011, Carsten Bormann wrote: For another perspective on this, see section 2.7 The fallacy of perfection in Garrulity and Fluff. (http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2011/04/Bormann.pdf) That's an interesting document. From Section 2.1: The worst source of

Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Philip Smith wrote: When APRICOT comes back to Bangkok in the future (it is a wonderful conference/convention city), the subway will make the location much more favourable, although I think the APIA Board will want to consider other venues too in light of the previous

Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Ole Jacobsen
Just on the topic of political unrest: Once the situation rises to the level of international news, all bets are off. Regardless of the actual danger, companies (and even countries) will issue travel bans or advisories which makes it impossible to have a normal meeting. Last year's

Re: The fallacy of perfection (Re: DKIM Signatures now being applied to IETF Email)

2011-08-10 Thread Hector Santos
SM wrote: Hi Carsten, At 11:46 09-08-2011, Carsten Bormann wrote: For another perspective on this, see section 2.7 The fallacy of perfection in Garrulity and Fluff. (http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2011/04/Bormann.pdf) That's an interesting document. From Section 2.1: Yes, it is

Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Glen Zorn
On 8/10/2011 3:06 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: ... I would NOT want to be in the business of moving an IETF meeting 2 months before the event. Certainly not, but all hell can break loose with little or no warning virtually anywhere (see http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/08/london_riots.html).

Re: Queen Sirikit National Convention Center

2011-08-10 Thread Ole Jacobsen
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Dean Willis wrote: We're tougher than you think, Ole! -- Dean Judging by the whining, I sometimes wonder :-) Ole's iPad ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: [v6ops] Last Call: draft-ietf-v6ops-3gpp-eps-03.txt (IPv6 in 3GPP Evolved Packet System) to Informational RFC

2011-08-10 Thread jouni korhonen
Dear Gang, On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:14 PM, GangChen wrote: Dear Jouni, In mobile CPE case, MT and TE are separated. That would need additional requirements in some particular cases, e.g. dynamic IPv6 address allocation. Separate MT TE is part of the existing 3GPP specifications. There is

Re: [pim] tsv-dir review of draft-ietf-pim-mtid-08

2011-08-10 Thread Yiqun Cai
Marshall, thank you very much for the review. Some of my comments are inline. On 6/30/11 7:22 AM, Marshall Eubanks marshall.euba...@gmail.com wrote: I've reviewed this document as part of the transport area directorate's ongoing effort to review key IETF documents. These comments were

Re: The fallacy of perfection

2011-08-10 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 10.08.2011 08:58, SM wrote: The reality is whatever the IETF thinks of the principles of Internet architecture, operators will violate those principles when the latter conflicts with their core value; which is about making money. In simple terms, that protocol that has been designed to do

RE: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-shiomoto-ccamp-switch-programming

2011-08-10 Thread Adrian Farrel
Hi Ben, Thanks for reading. Nits/editorial comments: -- section 1, paragraph 4: ...with relation to the programming... ... in relation to... Yeah. RFC Editor note if Stewart is watching (although I'm guessing the RFC Editor might just fix this anyway). -- 3.1, last paragraph: Note

Gen-ART Review: Last Call draft-ietf-lisp-lig-04.txt

2011-08-10 Thread Mary Barnes
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document: draft-ietf-lisp-lig-04 Reviewer: Mary

Fwd: New Non-WG Mailing List: sami -- State Migration

2011-08-10 Thread Mark Nottingham
I'm curious -- why was a new list created, when there's already a (fairly quiet) clouds@ mailing list? (just trying to reduce the absurd number of mailing lists I need to follow) Begin forwarded message: From: IETF Secretariat ietf-secretar...@ietf.org Subject: New Non-WG Mailing List: sami

Re: is IETF trying to do too much?

2011-08-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Aug 4, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: Marc == Marc Petit-Huguenin petit...@acm.org writes: Marc I personally would like to switch to the Tufte style, Marc (i.e. uploading a printout, which can also be distributed to Marc people before the meeting in printed form,

Protocol Action: 'MPLS-TP Linear Protection' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-09.txt)

2011-08-10 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'MPLS-TP Linear Protection' (draft-ietf-mpls-tp-linear-protection-09.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A

CLUE WG Virtual Interim Meeting: August 23, 2011

2011-08-10 Thread IESG Secretary
The CLUE WG will hold an interim virtual meeting on: 2011-08-23, 16.00-18.00 GMT (starting at 9.00 Pacific, 11.00 Central, 12.00 Eastern) Agenda and details will be announced on the CLUE WG mailing list (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/clue/) as soon as available.

DRINKS WG Virtual Interim Meeting: August 31, 2011

2011-08-10 Thread IESG Secretary
The DRINKS Working Group will hold an interim virtual meeting on Wednesday, August 31, 2011, from 1:00 PM - 5:00 PM (Eastern). Call-in details and preliminary agenda were announced on the DRINKS WG mailing list at http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/drinks/current/msg00960.html.