Re: Hyatt Taipei cancellation policy?

2011-09-15 Thread Alastair Johnson
On 8/30/2011 2:30 PM, Ole Jacobsen wrote: Dean, Before you give up completely I would check out: http://wikitravel.org/en/Taipei Taxis are not expensive, the Metro even less so, and there are at least some budget hotels nearby. I expect the local hosts to provide more information soon --

Re: [sidr] Last Call: draft-ietf-sidr-ghostbusters-12.txt (The RPKI Ghostbusters Record) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-15 Thread Randy Bush
The IESG has received a request from the Secure Inter-Domain Routing WG (sidr) to consider the following document: - 'The RPKI Ghostbusters Record' draft-ietf-sidr-ghostbusters-12.txt as a Proposed Standard note that some apps-area fixes have caused me to revise to -13 randy

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registrationof Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields foruse in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread t.petch
I notice that section 3, to which IANA are directed, contains many formulations such as Specification document(s): [[anchor14: this document]] Would I be right in thinking that this is what other documents would refer to as RFC -- Note to RFC-Editor - replace RFC by the RFC Number

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registrationof Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields foruse in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Alexey Melnikov
t.petch wrote: I notice that section 3, to which IANA are directed, contains many formulations such as Specification document(s): [[anchor14: this document]] Would I be right in thinking that this is what other documents would refer to as RFC -- Note to RFC-Editor - replace RFC by

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-vcarddav-birth-death-extensions-00.txt (vCard Format Extensions : place of birth, place and date of death) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-15 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
14.09.2011 20:14, Simon Perreault wrote: Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote, on 09/14/2011 01:10 PM: Of course, you should have changed all references to vCard 4 to vCard 5, and reference to VCARDDAV WG draft to RFC 6350. vCard 4 is the latest version, specified in RFC 6350. We'll make a note to the RFC

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registrationof Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields foruse in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
15.09.2011 11:59, Alexey Melnikov wrote: t.petch wrote: I notice that section 3, to which IANA are directed, contains many formulations such as Specification document(s): [[anchor14: this document]] Would I be right in thinking that this is what other documents would refer to as

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registrationof Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields foruse in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote: 15.09.2011 11:59, Alexey Melnikov wrote: t.petch wrote: I notice that section 3, to which IANA are directed, contains many formulations such as Specification document(s): [[anchor14: this document]] Would I be right in thinking that this is what other

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registration of Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields for use in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
So some small comments: 1) A nit in Change controller field for all the header fields: you should either change it to IESG (i...@ietf.org) or IETF with subsequent address ietf@ietf.org. 2) Also, it might be useful to point out in the sub-sections of Section 3 which ABNF productions do the

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registration of Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields for use in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Julian Reschke
On 2011-09-15 18:46, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote: ... 9) I'd like you hereby disallowed further registration of header fields beginning with MMHS, likewise RFC 5504 Downgraded prefix (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5504#page-18). ... No. It's a bad idea in RFC 5504, and it would be a bad idea

Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Mykyta Yevstifeyev
Dear all, I've recently received a message from Ronald Bonica, one of the ADs, proposing undertaking an effort to reclassify many pre-IETF (pre-1000) RFCs as Historic. However, I initially had a concern regarding community consensus on such effort, and whether it will be accepted so that

RE: [PWE3] Last Call: draft-kompella-l2vpn-l2vpn-07.txt (Layer 2 Virtual Private Networks Using BGP for Auto-discovery and Signaling) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Balus, Florin Stelian (Florin)
I do not have a strong opinion on historical vs. experimental but I want to say that solutions based on RFC 6074 (so called BGP-AD) have been deployed in multiple networks some of them with mixed vendor environment. -Original Message- From: pwe3-boun...@ietf.org

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Keith Moore
My recollection is that this has already been done to a large degree. Also, focusing on this specific set of RFCs would be a lot of work, for very little actual value to the community. On the other hand, I'd be very much in favor of IETF periodically reviewing ALL standards-track RFCs for

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Scott O Bradner
I'm fully supportive of reclassifying any RFCs that pose a risk to the Internet to historic but fail to see the usefulness of doing so for RFCs that describe unused but non-harmful technologies - seems like busywork and useless at best. Scott On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Scott O Bradner
ps - as Keith points out - a round of this type of effort was undertaken by the newtrk working group a while back (I was the chair and did not see much reason to do so at the time but there was consensus in the WG to proceed) - I will note that it took quite a bit of work to ensure that

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Frank Ellermann
On 15 September 2011 20:39, Scott O Bradner wrote: as Keith points out - a round of this type of effort was undertaken by the newtrk working group a while back About five years back, IIRC, and with some limiting parameters. I think this clean up was brilliant, and a new round with new

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-mmhs-header-fields-04.txt (Registration of Military Message Handling System (MMHS) header fields for use in Internet Mail) to Informational RFC

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/15/11 11:11 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2011-09-15 18:46, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote: ... 9) I'd like you hereby disallowed further registration of header fields beginning with MMHS, likewise RFC 5504 Downgraded prefix (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5504#page-18). ... No. It's a bad

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Keith Moore
On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Frank Ellermann wrote: On 15 September 2011 20:39, Scott O Bradner wrote: as Keith points out - a round of this type of effort was undertaken by the newtrk working group a while back About five years back, IIRC, and with some limiting parameters. I think this

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/15/11 11:45 AM, Mykyta Yevstifeyev wrote: undertaking an effort to reclassify many pre-IETF (pre-1000) RFCs as Historic. Given that these are pre-IETF RFCs, I move that we create a new designation of Pre-Historic. /psa ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Martin Rex
Keith Moore wrote: Problem is, the IETF isn't really big enough to have a good idea about whether some technologies are still used. +1 Another example: TLS Transport Layer Security. If you look at the approx. current usage of the existing protocol revisions: SSLv3 (1996): 5%

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Spencer Dawkins
I'm speaking as an individual, albeit an individual who helped with the decrufting effort in NEWTRK ... http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4450.txt, for those who missed it. undertaking an effort to reclassify many pre-IETF (pre-1000) RFCs as Historic. Given that these are pre-IETF RFCs, I move

Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Glen Zorn
Indeed.  In fact there is a conversation currently on the pppext WG list in which certain people are claiming that PPP (?!) is obsolete, demonstrating that even subject-matter experts are often clueless about what's happening in the real world... Sent from Samsung tablet Keith Moore

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2011-09-15 Thread Thomas Narten
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Re: Pre-IETF RFCs to Historic (not really proposing)

2011-09-15 Thread Keith Moore
On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Spencer Dawkins wrote: I was in the rough on that one in 2005, but since we're looking at another bulk recategorization effort, I might make this suggestion again - perhaps we could define a new level, which might be called something like Not Maintained, with

Re: Conclusion of the last call on draft-housley-two-maturity-levels

2011-09-15 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
I thought the counting of votes was finished on this topic but people seem to keep emailing their support/lack-of, so naturally I will be a good lemming and do the same. 1) I am in favor of the two-maturity-levels draft and change. I have consulted a textbook on Euclidean geometry and

Document Action: 'Crypto-Agility Requirements for Remote Dial-In User Service (RADIUS)' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-radext-crypto-agility-requirements-07.txt)

2011-09-15 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Crypto-Agility Requirements for Remote Dial-In User Service (RADIUS)' (draft-ietf-radext-crypto-agility-requirements-07.txt) as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the RADIUS EXTensions Working Group. The IESG contact persons