Re: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread Hui Deng
Hi Dan inline please, I believe the objection is against non-deterministic translation, rather than stateful versus stateless. By non-deterministic, I mean that the subscriber's equipment (e.g., CPE) cannot determine the mapping it will have on the Internet. A+P mechanisms are Could you

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-05.txt

2011-09-27 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Emil Ivov wrote: Hey Alexey, Hi Emil, On 27 sept. 2011, at 00:24, Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com mailto:alexey.melni...@isode.com wrote: Jonathan Lennox wrote: Hi, Alexey -- thank you for the Gen-ART review. Hi Jonathan, Alexey Melnikov writes: Question: are the two

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversionrepository on Mac OS X

2011-09-27 Thread t.petch
--- Original Message - From: Yoav Nir y...@checkpoint.com To: Paul Hoffman paul.hoff...@vpnc.org Cc: Stuart Cheshire chesh...@apple.com; IETF-Discussion list ietf@ietf.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:11 PM On Sep 26, 2011, at 5:25 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Sep 25, 2011, at 7:20

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversion

2011-09-27 Thread Yoav Nir
On 9/27/11 12:45 AM, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote: So there seem to be two problems: - The server (svn.tools.ietf.org) does not seem to be sufficiently aware of the server names that it is servicing. If it takes more than a server configuration file change to make it aware of that

Re: 240/4 unreservation (was RE: Last Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request-03.txt (IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared Transition Space) to Informational RFC)

2011-09-27 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 27 Sep 2011, at 5:45 , Christian Huitema wrote: if an address space is somehow set aside, we have no mechanism to enforce that only ISP use it. So we have to assume it will be used by whoever feels like it. How is that different from the current situation? Is there a reason why

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pim-port-08.txt (A Reliable TransportMechanism for PIM) to Experimental RFC

2011-09-27 Thread t.petch
The choice of service name for this transport seems unfortunate; having a port number registry with a service in it called 'port' may be witty but seems like a source of future confusion. I notice that IANA currently have a service name of 'pim-port' which seems a better idea and one that I think

RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: Hui Deng [mailto:denghu...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:01 PM To: Dan Wing Cc: teemu.savolai...@nokia.com; satoru.matsush...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org; softwi...@ietf.org; beh...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [BEHAVE] Last Call:

RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: teemu.savolai...@nokia.com [mailto:teemu.savolai...@nokia.com] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 11:14 PM To: dw...@cisco.com; satoru.matsush...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Cc: softwi...@ietf.org; beh...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call:

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversion

2011-09-27 Thread Yoav Nir
On 9/27/11 12:45 AM, Martin Rex m...@sap.com wrote: - The server (svn.tools.ietf.org) does not seem to be sufficiently aware of the server names that it is servicing. If it takes more than a server configuration file change to make it aware of that additional hostname, then there is a

RE: 240/4 unreservation (was RE: Last Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request-03.txt (IANA Reserved IPv4 Prefix for Shared Transition Space) to Informational RFC)

2011-09-27 Thread George, Wes
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org On Behalf Of Iljitsch van Beijnum And who cares anyway? If people feel it's a good idea to use addresses in the 240/4 block, more power to them. That saves more usable addresses for other uses. WEG] The problem is that people really can't today, because vendors

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversion repository on Mac OS X

2011-09-27 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi, Yoav's tcpdump analysis, together with Martin's observations, helped me find the problem at the server end. I've changed the config now (addding a missing 'NameVirtualHost *:443' to Apache's config), and Stuart's example now works for me on OS X Snow Leopard and Lion: svn info

RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread Dan Wing
-Original Message- From: teemu.savolai...@nokia.com [mailto:teemu.savolai...@nokia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:24 AM To: dw...@cisco.com; satoru.matsush...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Cc: softwi...@ietf.org; beh...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call:

RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-05.txt

2011-09-27 Thread Jonathan Lennox
Hi, Alexey -- thank you for the Gen-ART review. Alexey Melnikov writes: Question: are the two encoding of the audio level indication option specified in the document really necessary? Do you mean the one-byte vs. two-byte forms of the header extension (Figure 1 vs. Figure 2)? These are the

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-05.txt

2011-09-27 Thread Emil Ivov
Hey Alexey, On 27 sept. 2011, at 00:24, Alexey Melnikov alexey.melni...@isode.com wrote: Jonathan Lennox wrote: Hi, Alexey -- thank you for the Gen-ART review. Hi Jonathan, Alexey Melnikov writes: Question: are the two encoding of the audio level indication option specified in the

RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread teemu.savolainen
I believe the objection is against non-deterministic translation, rather than stateful versus stateless. By non-deterministic, I mean that the subscriber's equipment (e.g., CPE) cannot determine the mapping it will have on the Internet. A+P mechanisms are deterministic (including 4rd,

RE: [BEHAVE] Last Call: draft-ietf-behave-v4v6-bih-06.txt (Dual Stack Hosts Using Bump-in-the-Host (BIH)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread teemu.savolainen
I don't understand why that is significant enough factor for IETF to (not) recommend some double translation variants. I mean does existing applications work better if double translation is done in deterministic manner? Yes, it allows the CPE to implement an ALG -- if an application

Re: IAOC: delegating ex-officio responsibility

2011-09-27 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, September 26, 2011 13:15 -0700 Bob Hinden bob.hin...@gmail.com wrote: John, I don't see how you took what I said and then interpreted it as suggesting that I was saying proposing an absolute dictatorship. You do have a good imagination :-) I didn't take your proposal that

Re: IAOC: delegating ex-officio responsibility

2011-09-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2011-09-28 08:03, John C Klensin wrote: snip ... Interesting it is exactly the assumption that the IAB Chair will have first hand involvement in everything that the IAB does that is cited an example of why it is necessary to have the IAB Chair on the IASA. So, if the IAB succeeds in

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pim-port-08.txt (A Reliable TransportMechanism for PIM) to Experimental RFC

2011-09-27 Thread Joe Touch
Hi, all, The IANA considerations in this doc are in error and need updating as follows. I agree that PORT is a poor acronym choice, FWIW. Joe 11. IANA Considerations This specification makes use of a TCP port number and a SCTP port number for the use of PIM-Over-Reliable-Transport

Re: Last Call: draft-sprecher-mpls-tp-oam-considerations-01.txt (The Reasons for Selecting a Single Solution for MPLS-TP OAM) to Informational RFC

2011-09-27 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Please see attached review. I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you may receive. Document:

Re: Need help tracking down problem accessing IETF Subversion repository on Mac OS X

2011-09-27 Thread Stuart Cheshire
On 27 Sep 2011, at 7:32, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: Hi, Yoav's tcpdump analysis, together with Martin's observations, helped me find the problem at the server end. I've changed the config now (addding a missing 'NameVirtualHost *:443' to Apache's config), and Stuart's example now works for

Re: [payload] [Payload] Last Call: draft-ietf-payload-rfc3189bis-02.txt (RTP Payload Format for DV (IEC 61834) Video)) to Proposed Standard

2011-09-27 Thread Kazuhiro Mishima
Hi, Roni and Qin Thank you for your comments! I'll correspond these issues and update the draft soon. Best regards, Kazuhiro 2011/9/27 Qin Wu bill...@huawei.com: Hi, Roni: Thank for your replies. Your proposed changes look good to me. I would like to see the remaining minor issues are

Protocol Action: 'RPL Objective Function Zero' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-roll-of0-20.txt)

2011-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'RPL Objective Function Zero' (draft-ietf-roll-of0-20.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Adrian Farrel and Stewart Bryant. A URL

Protocol Action: 'Using the Generic Associated Channel Label for Pseudowire in MPLS-TP' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-01.txt)

2011-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Using the Generic Associated Channel Label for Pseudowire in MPLS-TP' (draft-ietf-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-01.txt) as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Pseudowire Emulation Edge to Edge Working Group. The IESG contact persons

Re: Informational RFC to be: draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-10.txt

2011-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'Overview of Email DNSBL Best Practise' draft-irtf-asrg-bcp-blacklists-10.txt as an Informational RFC. The IESG wants to make the IRSG aware of its concern that there is a potential for confusion between the IETF Best Current Practice (BCP) series

Re: Informational RFC to be: draft-tripathi-roll-rpl-simulation-07.txt

2011-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has no problem with the publication of 'Performance Evaluation of Routing Protocol for Low Power and Lossy Networks (RPL)' draft-tripathi-roll-rpl-simulation-07.txt as an Informational RFC. The IESG would also like the RFC-Editor to review the comments in the datatracker

Last Call: draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-07.txt (A Framework for the Control of Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) with Impairments) to Informational RFC

2011-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Common Control and Measurement Plane WG (ccamp) to consider the following document: - 'A Framework for the Control of Wavelength Switched Optical Networks (WSON) with Impairments' draft-ietf-ccamp-wson-impairments-07.txt as an Informational RFC The

WG Review: Reputation Services (repute)

2011-09-27 Thread IESG Secretary
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Applications Area. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The following draft charter was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list (i...@ietf.org) by Tuesday,