Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 27/Feb/12 21:30, Patrik Fältström wrote: Yes, a pain. But...we just must be able to get new RRTypes deployed. And not give up. I agree it is a praiseworthy task to pursue the diffusion of unknown RRTypes. However, it cannot be piggybacked on client protocols, that have their own

Re: Reminder: T-shirt Design Contest for IETF 83

2012-02-28 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
It may be intentional or not. But one of the designs has the eiffel tower centered on the wearer's crotch area. This makes for an interesting visual effect when worn A previous conference at which I attended (1st Web conference) had a similar unfortunate juxtaposition with the Jet D'Eau in Lake

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread John Leslie
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: I'm still hoping to get some more feedback on draft-levine-dnsextlang-02.txt We believe in rough consensus and running code. I'm happy to contribute to the rough consensus once I see running code, perpaps for bind and perl-script registrar

Re: Reminder: T-shirt Design Contest for IETF 83

2012-02-28 Thread Benson Schliesser
On Feb 28, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: It may be intentional or not. But one of the designs has the eiffel tower centered on the wearer's crotch area. This makes for an interesting visual effect when worn I suspect you might be referring to my submission of the Eiffel

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Hector
John Leslie wrote: John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: I'm still hoping to get some more feedback on draft-levine-dnsextlang-02.txt We believe in rough consensus and running code. I'm happy to contribute to the rough consensus once I see running code, perpaps for bind and perl-script

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Doug Barton
On 2/27/2012 5:56 PM, John Levine wrote: The problem is provisioning software. We weenies can stuff anything into our DNS servers we want, because we use vi and emacs and (in my case) custom perl scripts. For the other 99.5% of the world, what they can put in their DNS zones is limited to

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 2/27/2012 5:56 PM, John Levine wrote: The problem is provisioning software. We weenies can stuff anything into our DNS servers we want, because we use vi and emacs and (in my case) custom perl scripts. For the other 99.5% of the world, what they

RE: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Doug Barton Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:24 PM To: John Levine Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with Intelligent sysadmin: We need to deploy SPF Boss: How

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 0b7e91ed-d286-4065-a91a-79032bf6a...@email.android.com, Scott Kitte rman writes: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 2/27/2012 5:56 PM, John Levine wrote: The problem is provisioning software. We weenies can stuff anything into our DNS servers we want, because we

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread John R. Levine
In your little dialog, the boss was entirely reasonable -- the practical benefit from implementing SPF records would be zip. Or, put more simply, your conclusion seems to be that we can never add new RRs. Given that adding new RRs is crucial to the growth of the Internet, I reject that

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 9452079d1a51524aa5749ad23e00392804c...@exch-mbx901.corp.cloudmark.co m, Murray S. Kucherawy writes: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Doug Barton Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:24 PM To: John Levine Cc:

Gen-ART LC/Telechat review of draft-ietf-mext-mip6-tls-03

2012-02-28 Thread Ben Campbell
I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq. Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before posting a new version of the draft. Document:

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:17:52 AM Mark Andrews wrote: In message 9452079d1a51524aa5749ad23e00392804c...@exch-mbx901.corp.cloudmark.co m, Murray S. Kucherawy writes: -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Doug

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 02:23:30 PM Doug Barton wrote: On 2/27/2012 5:56 PM, John Levine wrote: The problem is provisioning software. We weenies can stuff anything into our DNS servers we want, because we use vi and emacs and (in my case) custom perl scripts. For the other 99.5% of

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Hector
Scott Kitterman wrote: If your DNS hosting company doesn't support them find another one or complain to them. You are paying them to host your DNS services and this is a basic part of the job. To what hosting company should I switch if I want to publish SPF records of Type SPF? SMTP

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 07:52:37 PM Hector wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: If your DNS hosting company doesn't support them find another one or complain to them. You are paying them to host your DNS services and this is a basic part of the job. To what hosting company should I

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Hector
Mark Andrews wrote: ... If your DNS hosting company doesn't support them find another one or complain to them. You are paying them to host your DNS services and this is a basic part of the job. +1. We have our own primary server and use GoDaddy as my domains registrar. I have all my

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread John Levine
If your DNS hosting company doesn't support them find another one or complain to them. You are paying them to host your DNS services and this is a basic part of the job. Can you suggest some DNS hosting companies that provide support for provisioning SPF records? I'm not aware of any. R's,

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20120229013632.9326.qm...@joyce.lan, John Levine writes: If your DNS hosting company doesn't support them find another one or complain to them. You are paying them to host your DNS services and this is a basic part of the job. Can you suggest some DNS hosting companies that

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread John R. Levine
SPF is listed. http://dyn.com/dns/dns-comparison/ Hmmn, only on the premium $30/mo and up packages, not on the cheap ones. There must be a moral here. By the way, what do you think of draft-levine-dnsextlang-02 ? Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of The Internet for

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread ned+ietf
In the previous message it was suggested that people who use a hosted DNS service should switch if their service doesn't support Type SPF. The problem is that, as far as I'm aware, none of them do. Perhaps in some cases it's because the person or persons who want to publish SPF records are

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Stephan Wenger
Godaddy, basic domain hosting at $10 per .com, allows you to set an SPF record. Stephan On 2.28.2012 17:56 , John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: SPF is listed. http://dyn.com/dns/dns-comparison/ Hmmn, only on the premium $30/mo and up packages, not on the cheap ones. There must be a moral

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 02:51:24 AM Stephan Wenger wrote: Godaddy, basic domain hosting at $10 per .com, allows you to set an SPF record. Stephan Of type TXT or type SPF? I checked with someone who has domains at Go Daddy and they couldn't find a mechanism for publishing Type SPF

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Hector
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 02:51:24 AM Stephan Wenger wrote: Godaddy, basic domain hosting at $10 per .com, allows you to set an SPF record. Stephan Of type TXT or type SPF? I checked with someone who has domains at Go Daddy and they couldn't find a mechanism for

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:02:13 AM Hector wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 02:51:24 AM Stephan Wenger wrote: Godaddy, basic domain hosting at $10 per .com, allows you to set an SPF record. Stephan Of type TXT or type SPF? I checked with

Re: DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-02-28 Thread Stephan Wenger
Confirmed. The menu option says add SPF, but you end up with a TXT record. Embarrassed, Stephan On 2.28.2012 21:11 , Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:02:13 AM Hector wrote: Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 02:51:24 AM Stephan

Last Call: draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08.txt (Encoding 3 PCN-States in the IP header using a single DSCP) to Proposed Standard

2012-02-28 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from the Congestion and Pre-Congestion Notification WG (pcn) to consider the following document: - 'Encoding 3 PCN-States in the IP header using a single DSCP' draft-ietf-pcn-3-in-1-encoding-08.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the

Order the Winning Paris T-shirt

2012-02-28 Thread Alexa Morris
First, a hearty thanks to the twelve people who submitted a design for our t-shirt contest. And thank you to everyone in the community who took a moment to vote for your favorite. We have a winner! Rosita Pin (http://www.vanderpin.net/) submitted the winning design, which you can purchase