Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 03/Mar/12 00:13, John R. Levine wrote: Until provisoning systems accept UNKNOWN record types they will always be a bottle neck. Without that you will have to wait for the change request to be processed. Given the history just getting records added to most of these system it will be

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread ned+ietf
On 03/Mar/12 00:13, John R. Levine wrote: Until provisoning systems accept UNKNOWN record types they will always be a bottle neck. Without that you will have to wait for the change request to be processed. Given the history just getting records added to most of these system it

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 3 mar 2012, at 16:56, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Doubtful. If a record needs to have, say, a priority field, or a port number, given the existence of MX, SRV, and various other RRs it's going to be very difficult for the designers of said field to argue that that should be done as

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Hector
ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Given that, designers of new RR types will want to stick to string formats just to spare ISPs some parsing, at the cost of losing a half of the advantages that RFC 5507 talks about, along with syntactic validations aimed at preventing some permerror/permfail

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, March 03, 2012 05:05:08 PM Patrik Fältström wrote: On 3 mar 2012, at 16:56, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Doubtful. If a record needs to have, say, a priority field, or a port number, given the existence of MX, SRV, and various other RRs it's going to be very difficult for

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Hector
� wrote: On 3 mar 2012, at 16:56, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Doubtful. If a record needs to have, say, a priority field, or a port number, given the existence of MX, SRV, and various other RRs it's going to be very difficult for the designers of said field to argue that that should be

Re: provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread ned+ietf
On 3 mar 2012, at 16:56, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Doubtful. If a record needs to have, say, a priority field, or a port number, given the existence of MX, SRV, and various other RRs it's going to be very difficult for the designers of said field to argue that that should be

Re: field types, was provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread John Levine
Doubtful. If a record needs to have, say, a priority field, or a port number, given the existence of MX, SRV, and various other RRs it's going to be very difficult for the designers of said field to argue that that should be done as ASCII text that has to be parsed out to use. Agree with

RE: Last Call:draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt (Allocation of an Associated Channel Code Point for Use by ITU-T Ethernet basedOAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-03 Thread John E Drake
Hi, I agree with the proposal that Russ Housley made, below, but before even provisionally granting G.8113.1 a code point by placing draft-betts in the RFC editor's queue until G.8113.1 is approved, I would like to understand whether there is a reasonable chance for it to be approved at WTSA

Re: field types, was provisioning software, was DNS RRTYPEs, the difficulty with

2012-03-03 Thread Hector
John Levine wrote: Now mail clients parse multiple SPF and DKIM records on every mail transaction and nobody cares. Well., its not like anyone really had a choice. SPF is still maturing with its RR type, DKIM didn't bother, and now also have VBR, ADSP and now ATPS and then DMARC (all

Re: Last Call: draft-melnikov-smtp-priority-07.txt (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol extension for Message Transfer Priorities) to Proposed Standard

2012-03-03 Thread ned+ietf
This draft also defines the MT-Priority header field. �It is quite unusual for a SMTP extension specification to define a mail header field. ... This is my major concern about this protocol as well, as I note in the PROTO writeup (which, unfortunately, can't be seen publicly because of a

RE: Last Call:draft-betts-itu-oam-ach-code-point-03.txt (Allocationof an Associated Channel Code Point for Use by ITU-T EthernetbasedOAM) to Informational RFC

2012-03-03 Thread Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Russ hi, I think many concerns were raised on draft-betts itself, so I think we should first look at these comments Concerning G.8113.1, as mentioned before as it was disapproved, it is clear that there was no consensus. It will be good to understand what are the issues...the code point was