Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[I was on disconnected holidays during the Last Call, sorry.] On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05:30AM -0400, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote a message of 119 lines which said: The leaders of the IEEE Standards Association, the IAB, the IETF, the Internet Society, and the W3C signed a statement

Re: Minutes SHOULD include participants number

2012-08-29 Thread Abdussalam Baryun
Hi John, Thanks for your advise and comments. I prefered that consensus is documented to know its value/level as was it 60% or 70% or 80%...etc. How do Chairs in IETF decide on the agree/disagree/no-reply from WGs Note that 51% of the working group does not qualify as rough consensus and

Re: Minutes SHOULD include participants number

2012-08-29 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Just on a practical matter, many of us WG chairs like to get the minutes uploaded as quickly as possible, before the blue sheet numbers are available. Like John, I fail to see the value of recording the number of people sitting in chairs, except to size the room for the next meeting. One of the

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:05:30AM -0400, IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org wrote a message of 119 lines which said: You can learn more about these principles at www.open-stand.org. The link Français for the translation of the principles in French yields a 404... May be it was written by

Re: Minutes SHOULD include participants number

2012-08-29 Thread Loa Andersson
AB, I think what Andy says is that percentage nothing to do with rough consensus. Rough consensus has everything to do with finding ways forward that the entire wg can live with. Sometimes people find themselves in the rough, we don't fully agree with what working group chairs says is the wg

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr I strongly regret that Commerce has a specific mention, among all the other uses of the Internet. The network is not only open for business! I hear you, but unless the Internet were a money-making system it would not have grown as

Re: Leading Global Standards Organizations Endorse 'OpenStand' Principles that Drive Innovation and Borderless Commerce

2012-08-29 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Wed 29/Aug/2012 11:54:02 +0200 Noel Chiappa wrote: From: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr I strongly regret that Commerce has a specific mention, among all the other uses of the Internet. The network is not only open for business! I hear you, but unless the Internet were a

Re: Minutes SHOULD include participants number

2012-08-29 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:12:26AM +0200, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: documented to know its value/level as was it 60% or 70% or 80%...etc. That's impossible to answer. We don't do voting. How do Chairs in IETF decide on the agree/disagree/no-reply from WGs We use our judgement. That's why we

Re: Minutes SHOULD include participants number

2012-08-29 Thread SM
At 01:12 29-08-2012, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: Thanks for your advise and comments. I prefered that consensus is documented to know its value/level as was it 60% or 70% or 80%...etc. There isn't any percentage for consensus. How do Chairs in IETF decide on the agree/disagree/no-reply from WGs

Call for Comment on 'Principles for Unicode Code Point Inclusion in Labels in the DNS'

2012-08-29 Thread IAB Chair
This is an IETF-wide Call for Comment on 'Principles for Unicode Code Point Inclusion in Labels in the DNS'. The document is being considered for publication as an Informational RFC within the IAB stream, and is available for inspection here:

RFC 6680 on Generic Security Service Application Programming Interface (GSS-API) Naming Extensions

2012-08-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6680 Title: Generic Security Service Application Programming Interface (GSS-API) Naming Extensions Author: N. Williams, L. Johansson, S.

RFC 6715 on vCard Format Extensions: Representing vCard Extensions Defined by the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) Converged Address Book (CAB) Group

2012-08-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6715 Title: vCard Format Extensions: Representing vCard Extensions Defined by the Open Mobile Alliance (OMA) Converged Address Book (CAB)

RFC 6717 on kx509 Kerberized Certificate Issuance Protocol in Use in 2012

2012-08-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6717 Title: kx509 Kerberized Certificate Issuance Protocol in Use in 2012 Author: H. Hotz, R. Allbery Status: Informational Stream:

RFC 6722 on Publishing the Tao of the IETF as a Web Page

2012-08-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6722 Title: Publishing the Tao of the IETF as a Web Page Author: P. Hoffman, Ed. Status: Informational Stream: IETF Date:

RFC 6725 on DNS Security (DNSSEC) DNSKEY Algorithm IANA Registry Updates

2012-08-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6725 Title: DNS Security (DNSSEC) DNSKEY Algorithm IANA Registry Updates Author: S. Rose Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF