Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, September 13, 2012 23:59 + John Levine jo...@taugh.com wrote: Censorship? Sheesh. ... As I think I've said several times before, if we think the IESG would start gratuitously deleting stuff, we have much worse problems than any policy statement could solve. +1 Exactly.

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread tglassey
On 9/13/2012 8:40 PM, John Levine wrote: I'm not sure I understand this analogy. Are you saying that there are IPR issues related to making expired drafts available? Yes. Depends on the IDs, when they were authored, and which version of the boilerplate they contain. Can you give a concrete

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread tglassey
On 9/13/2012 9:23 PM, Joe Touch wrote: There were times when there were no rights granted explicitly, at least. I indicated the three ranges in a previous mail. Joe On 9/13/2012 8:40 PM, John Levine wrote: I'm not sure I understand this analogy. Are you saying that there are IPR issues

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread tglassey
On 9/13/2012 10:35 PM, Joe Touch wrote: Note well, as you noted well, does not go back to the beginning of all IDs. I.e., this is a tangled mess of different copyrights, different note wells, etc., and it's not as simple as it's the IETF's right to do anything except - maybe - going forward

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 07:24:12AM -0700, tglassey wrote: For instance - how do you deal with an ID which was originally published under one set of IP rights and another later one - or a derivative work which is published under a separate set of rights - which functionally contravenes or

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread Bradner, Scott
I don't think that the Note Well note has much to do with what Joe started talking about we have had this discussion before quite a few years ago (pre tools) I suggested moving expired IDs to an expired IDs directory rather than removing them from the IETF public repository as well as posting

Re: Last Call: draft-snell-http-prefer-14.txt (Prefer Header for HTTP) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-14 Thread SM
At 11:44 14-09-2012, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Prefer Header for HTTP' draft-snell-http-prefer-14.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-03.txt

2012-09-14 Thread Barry Leiba
Russ has asked that SM and I pare down the proposal for a 3777 update, back down to my original one that just adds the IAOC and the ex-officio roles to the exclusion list. After talking with SM, I have re-posted a slightly edited version of that original proposal (below), and we have decided that

Protocol Action: 'Kerberos Options for DHCPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-18.txt)

2012-09-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Kerberos Options for DHCPv6' (draft-sakane-dhc-dhcpv6-kdc-option-18.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Kerberos Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Stephen Farrell and Sean Turner. A URL of this Internet Draft

Minutes of the IETF/IEEE 802 leadership meeting posted

2012-09-14 Thread IAB Chair
Minutes of the IETF/IEEE 802 leadership meeting held in Milpitas, CA on July 25, 2012 have now been posted: http://www.iab.org/documents/minutes/minutes-2012/iab-minutes-2012-07-25/

IETF Large Interim Meeting - OPSEC, SIDR and V6OPS

2012-09-14 Thread IETF Secretariat
OPSEC, SIDR and V6OPS Interim Meeting Amsterdam, The Netherlands 29 September 2012 Venue: Hotel Okura Amsterdam (www.okura.nl) Ferdinand Bolstraat 333 1072 LH Amsterdam The Netherlands 1. Registration 2. Accommodations 3. Meeting Schedule 1. Registration A. Fee:

Last Call: draft-snell-http-prefer-14.txt (Prefer Header for HTTP) to Proposed Standard

2012-09-14 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Prefer Header for HTTP' draft-snell-http-prefer-14.txt as Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send

RFC 6709 on Design Considerations for Protocol Extensions

2012-09-14 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6709 Title: Design Considerations for Protocol Extensions Author: B. Carpenter, B. Aboba, Ed., S. Cheshire Status: Informational Stream: