Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Housley
I agree that this sentence needs changed. However, I think that one other sentence should be updated while we are dealing with the IAOC in this document. RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting member of the IESG or IAB may be questioned,

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/27/2012 8:26 AM, Russ Housley wrote: I agree that this sentence needs changed. However, I think that one other sentence should be updated while we are dealing with the IAOC in this document. RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: I agree that this sentence needs changed. However, I think that one other sentence should be updated while we are dealing with the IAOC in this document. RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting member of the IESG or IAB may

Re: Failing to convince an IETF WG

2012-09-27 Thread tglassey
On 9/26/2012 1:55 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 26 Sep 2012, at 03:18, tglassey tglas...@earthlink.net wrote: The issue is how to remove the political BS which clouds so many initiatives. Disagree that this is *the* issue. We also get technical BS and even stuff that's utterly

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Dave Crocker
On 9/27/2012 10:57 AM, Russ Housley wrote: As for the earlier discussion seeking to exclude paid staff, I think it odd to have criteria that would permit /any/ paid staff to sit on Nomcom. We pay for a number of folk 'staff' folk to show up and IETF meetings and none of them should qualify for

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-27 Thread tglassey
On 9/25/2012 9:03 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: Hi Dave, Independent Stream authors well might not be part of the IETF -- always a strange line of thinking, given that the IETF doesn't have members -- but that doesn't mean that the Stream itself is outside the IETF. Any I-D author MUST be

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Ted Hardie
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Dave Crocker dcroc...@bbiw.net wrote: So, to provide a specific example, you would be OK with having someone from AMS on Nomcom? d/ If they met the NomCom eligibility requirements by being a _registered attendee_ for the requisite number of meetings, then

RE: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Adrian Farrel
I have participated in the discussions leading to this version of the document, and support its publication as an RFC. However, I have two small editorial proposals and two typos that I would like to see polished. Thanks, Adrian --- Section 1 RFC 3777 specifies that sitting members of the

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Barry Leiba
Good on both points; I will change both. Barry

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Barry Leiba
RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting member of the IESG or IAB may be questioned, perhaps resulting in the removal of the sitting member. The community should also be able to recall an IAOC member. As Dave says, that alters the

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Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership' draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt as Best Current Practice The IESG plans to make a decision in the