Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread SM
At 22:16 20-11-2012, Geoff Huston wrote: The guidelines for IP address allocations were documented in RFC2050, adopted in November 1996 as a Best Current Practice. This document Some parts of RFC 2050 could be considered as Historic. As a FYI there is only one IANA policy about IPv6 [1].

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, A possible course of action for the LISP Working Group and the IESG to consider would be for the existing /32 address be documented as an IANA Special Purpose Address allocation for use in supporting the current LISP experiment, and for the LISP advocates to make their case for

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: Geoff Huston g...@apnic.net I don't have any comment, one way or another, on what seems to be the basic point of your note (about what role, if any, the IETF should play in allocation). However, there was one aspect I wanted to comment on (it's not clear, reading your note, if this

RE: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread George, Wes
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 8:49 AM To: ietf@ietf.org; l...@ietf.org Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu; jcur...@arin.net; pwil...@apnic.net; i...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [lisp] Last Call:

RE: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com I don't think that expecting code to handle two blocks (the experimental one and the permanent one) is asking too much We disagree. For me, it's extra code/complexity, and it buys you absolutely nothing at all. If a single

IETF Chair's Presentation at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai

2012-11-21 Thread IETF Chair
Last Monday, I gave a short presentation on collaboration among standards development organizations at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai, UAE. The Internest Society has posted my slides and a transcript of my words. These are available here:

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:16:58 +1100 From:Geoff Huston g...@apnic.net Message-ID: 99b9866c-41d6-4784-aa69-cd25e5910...@apnic.net I have no idea whether the allocation requested is reasonable or not, I haven't read the draft (and unless it becomes more widely used than

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Noel, I don't think that expecting code to handle two blocks (the experimental one and the permanent one) is asking too much We disagree. For me, it's extra code/complexity, and it buys you absolutely nothing at all. I don't agree. See below. If a single permanent allocation that

RE: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread George, Wes
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa If a single permanent allocation that never changes is truly necessary Allocation != reservation. Nobody is asking for the entire chunk to be _allocated_ (i.e. given out), just that it be _reserved_

RE: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com Allocation != reservation. You're hairsplitting on semantics in a way that is mostly unhelpful to the discussion at hand. I _thought_ that the point of the messages from Geoff and others (who were questioning about how there were

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Dino Farinacci
Make it an allocation for EIDs and ILNP can use it too. Dino On Nov 21, 2012, at 12:25 PM, George, Wes wesley.geo...@twcable.com wrote: From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa If a single permanent allocation that never changes is truly

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Dino Farinacci
A possible course of action for the LISP Working Group and the IESG to consider would be for the existing /32 address be documented as an IANA Special Purpose Address allocation for use in supporting the current LISP experiment, and for the LISP advocates to make their case for particular

Re: Gen-ART LC Review of draft-ietf-karp-routing-tcp-analysis-05.txt

2012-11-21 Thread Ben Campbell
Hi, thanks for the response. I removed sections that didn't seem to need further comment: On Nov 19, 2012, at 1:58 AM, Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanand...@gmail.com wrote: [...] *** Minor issues *** : -- section 2.2, last paragraph: The IKE mention lacks context. Do you mean to suggest

Re: [lisp] Last Call: draft-ietf-lisp-eid-block-03.txt (LISP EID Block) to Informational RFC

2012-11-21 Thread Geoff Huston
With respect Robert, I disagree with your line of argument and I disagree with your assertion that a reference to an existing RFC is bogus under these circumstances This eid draft does not claim to obsolete or update either the description of roles and responsibilities in RFC2860 or the

[ietf-privacy] Notes from Media without censorship event at IETF Atlanta

2012-11-21 Thread Johan Pouwelse
Dear All, Last IETF in Atlanta a side meeting was held about media without censorship. Brief conclusion: - a large group of people is interested in this topic - implementation of ideas is judged to be key - difficult to fit in IETF, but other organisations are worse. Discussion I-D:

RFC 6671 on Allocation of a Generic Associated Channel Type for ITU-T MPLS Transport Profile Operation, Maintenance, and Administration (MPLS-TP OAM)

2012-11-21 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6671 Title: Allocation of a Generic Associated Channel Type for ITU-T MPLS Transport Profile Operation, Maintenance, and

RFC 6805 on The Application of the Path Computation Element Architecture to the Determination of a Sequence of Domains in MPLS and GMPLS

2012-11-21 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 6805 Title: The Application of the Path Computation Element Architecture to the Determination of a Sequence of Domains in

EXTENSION: Please comment on IAOC candidates for IAB selection

2012-11-21 Thread IAB Chair
WARNING: contains banned part ---BeginMessage--- As described in BCP 101 (RFC 4071) and BCP 113 (RFC 4333), the IESG and the IAB each select one person for a two-year IAOC term in alternate years. This year, the IAB will select one person for a term beginning in March 2013. Following the

IETF Chair's Presentation at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai

2012-11-21 Thread IETF Chair
Last Monday, I gave a short presentation on collaboration among standards development organizations at the Global Standards Symposium in Dubai, UAE. The Internest Society has posted my slides and a transcript of my words. These are available here:

Protocol Action: 'IMAP Support for UTF-8' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt)

2012-11-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IMAP Support for UTF-8' (draft-ietf-eai-5738bis-12.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Barry Leiba and Pete Resnick. A URL of this Internet

Protocol Action: 'Simplified POP/IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt)

2012-11-21 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Simplified POP/IMAP Downgrading for Internationalized Email' (draft-ietf-eai-simpledowngrade-07.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Email Address Internationalization Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Pete