Re: WCIT outcome?

2012-12-31 Thread Masataka Ohta
SM wrote: What people say and what they actually do or mean is often a very different matter. An individual may have principles (or beliefs). A stakeholder has interests. There was an individual who mentioned on an IETF mailing list that he/she disagreed with his/her company's stance.

Re: WCIT outcome?

2012-12-31 Thread John Day
Phillip, The reason that rule is useful is that just as it is ridiculous for the US representative to the ITU to attempt to convey the positions of Comcast and Google, it is no more practical for one person to represent the position of Cisco or Microsoft. Then I take it from this comment

Re: travel guide for the next IETF...

2012-12-31 Thread Janet P Gunn
Daytona Bike Week is March 8 - 17. Janet ietf-boun...@ietf.org wrote on 12/29/2012 10:18:31 AM: From: Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net To: IETF Discussion ietf@ietf.org Date: 12/29/2012 10:18 AM Subject: travel guide for the next IETF... Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org Going

30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread IETF Chair
Happy New Year. It is already 2013 in some part of the world. The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago, and it was a huge milestone in the journey toward the Internet as we know it. You can see the transition plan. Like so many other historic networking

Re: WCIT outcome?

2012-12-31 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:51 AM, John Day jeanj...@comcast.net wrote: ** Phillip, The reason that rule is useful is that just as it is ridiculous for the US representative to the ITU to attempt to convey the positions of Comcast and Google, it is no more practical for one person to

Re: 30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread Victor Ndonnang
Great one! Happy and prosperous New Year 2013 to the entire IETF Community. The Internet works because of your great work. Thanks! Victor Ndonnang. On 31/12/2012 18:21, IETF Chair wrote: Happy New Year. It is already 2013 in some part of the world. The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1

Re: 30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago, It's very hard indeed to fully grasp that it's only been 30 years. My kids (now roughly 20) live in what is in some ways an entirely different world to the one I grew up

Re: WCIT outcome?

2012-12-31 Thread John Day
At 1:05 PM -0500 12/31/12, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:51 AM, John Day mailto:jeanj...@comcast.netjeanj...@comcast.net wrote: Phillip, The reason that rule is useful is that just as it is ridiculous for the US representative to the ITU to attempt to convey the

Re: 30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread Lixia Zhang
On Dec 31, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: IETF Chair ch...@ietf.org The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago, It's very hard indeed to fully grasp that it's only been 30 years. My kids (now roughly 20) live in what is in some ways an

Re: [ih] 30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread Randy Bush
born in 1963, i felt throughout the 70's and 80's that i had been born too late, that all the fun stuff had been done already. now in the 10's i feel like we're just getting going and that i was probably born too soon, that all the fun stuff is coming 50 years from now. if you missed the

30th Anniversary of Transition to TCP/IP

2012-12-31 Thread IETF Chair
Happy New Year. It is already 2013 in some part of the world. The ARPANET transitioned to TCP/IP on 1 January 1983. That was 30 years ago, and it was a huge milestone in the journey toward the Internet as we know it. You can see the transition plan. Like so many other historic networking