Re: Detective story (was: Language editing)

2013-05-07 Thread Yoav Nir
On May 7, 2013, at 1:08 AM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: At 13:23 06-05-2013, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I don't that is quite right. The problem in this case is not to do with linguistic quality. It's due to a lack of formal verification Quoting from the detective story: At [censored] we

Re: secdir review of draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-cs-17

2013-05-07 Thread Gonzalo Camarillo
Hi Samuel, the authors of this draft have reviewed it in order to address your comments: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-cs-18 Could you please have a look at this revision and let them know whether you are happy with it? Thanks, Gonzalo On 04/02/2013 9:08 PM, Samuel Weiler

Re: Last Call: draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-02.txt (IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 Parameters) to Best Current Practice

2013-05-07 Thread joel jaeggli
On 5/7/13 12:07 PM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 Parameters' draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-02.txt as Best Current Practice

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread ned+ietf
Maybe things have changed, but, if one actually believes the robustness principle, then, in the case Geoff cites, Exchange is simply non-conforming -- not because the spec prohibits rejecting on the basis of a fine distinction about IPv6 formats, but because doing so is unnecessary,

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, May 07, 2013 08:08 -0700 Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com wrote: Maybe things have changed, but, if one actually believes the robustness principle, then, in the case Geoff cites, Exchange is simply non-conforming -- not because the spec prohibits rejecting on the basis of a

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 08/05/2013 03:28, John C Klensin wrote: ... I'll also point out that this has diddley-squat to do with formal verification processes. Again as Mark Anrdrews points out, we deployed something with a restriction that subsequently turned out to be unnecessary, and now we're stuck with it.

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread ned+ietf
On 08/05/2013 03:28, John C Klensin wrote: ... I'll also point out that this has diddley-squat to do with formal verification processes. Again as Mark Anrdrews points out, we deployed something with a restriction that subsequently turned out to be unnecessary, and now we're stuck with

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-07 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 5/2/13 4:58 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: On 5/2/2013 3:25 PM, Jari Arkko wrote: But the delay was really not my main concern. Primarily because I think other issues such as transparency to the working group or late surprises are more fundamental issues than mere timing. But also because I

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 08/05/2013 08:33, Ned Freed wrote: On 08/05/2013 03:28, John C Klensin wrote: ... I'll also point out that this has diddley-squat to do with formal verification processes. Again as Mark Anrdrews points out, we deployed something with a restriction that subsequently turned out to be

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread Randy Presuhn
Hi - From: Brian E Carpenter brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com To: Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com Cc: John C Klensin john-i...@jck.com; yaronf.i...@gmail.com; ietf@ietf.org Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:19 PM Subject: Re: Language editing ... You are correct if only considering the mail

Re: Language editing

2013-05-07 Thread ned+ietf
On 08/05/2013 08:33, Ned Freed wrote: On 08/05/2013 03:28, John C Klensin wrote: ... I'll also point out that this has diddley-squat to do with formal verification processes. Again as Mark Anrdrews points out, we deployed something with a restriction that subsequently turned out to be

Last Call: draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-02.txt (IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 Parameters) to Best Current Practice

2013-05-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'IANA Considerations and IETF Protocol and Documentation Usage for IEEE 802 Parameters' draft-eastlake-rfc5342bis-02.txt as Best Current Practice The IESG plans to make a decision in the next

Protocol Action: 'RTP Control Protocol(RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Block for Burst/Gap Discard metric Reporting' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-14.txt)

2013-05-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'RTP Control Protocol(RTCP) Extended Report (XR) Block for Burst/Gap Discard metric Reporting' (draft-ietf-xrblock-rtcp-xr-burst-gap-discard-14.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's