Re: [payload] Last Call: (RTP Payload Format for VP8 Video) to Proposed Standard

2013-07-19 Thread Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
Resent on different list … I would like to raise an issue interoperability with this payload specification that we are currently having with WebRTC implementations. In WebRTC, and many other places, you want SDP to be able to control the resolution of the image (or at least the outer limits o

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Randy Bush
> IMEIs are very pervasive, carried around by 100's of millions > of people and generally not intended to be shared with the > Internet. my american social security card, which admittedly is a bit old, has "Not to be used for identification" emblazoned on it in red. for me, a seminal document was

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
On 07/19/2013 11:53 PM, Andrew Allen wrote: > the IMEI URN MUST NOT be included in messages intended to convey any level of > anonymity That seems both perfect RFC 6919 fodder and disingenuous at the same time (how can a message convey a level of anonymity?). I need to read the draft but this

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
Hm, I confess that I searched the text of the draft for the word “privacy” and jumped to conclusions upon seeing no matches. Probably a good idea to work it in for impatient folk like me. I would expand that section to point out that since the IMEI survives device wipes and changes of possession,

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Andrew Allen
Tim Do you not think that the text in the security considerations section:: "because IMEIs can be loosely correlated to a user, they need to be treated as any other personally identifiable information. In particular, the IMEI URN MUST NOT be included in messages intended to convey any level of

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:52 AM, S Moonesamy wrote: > > It would be easier to have the draft discuss the GSMA URN only. The > alternative is to have the draft discuss the privacy considerations of > using IMEI and IMEISV. > Good catch. Assuming this is a good idea (I’m dubious) it would be com

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread S Moonesamy
At 08:02 19-07-2013, Tim Bray wrote: I'm not sure from reading the draft what the goal of having this URN namespace is, but if it involves encouraging its use by application developers, I'm pretty sure it's a bad idea. I agree that it sounds like a bad idea to encourage application developers

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Martin Thomson
On 19 July 2013 08:38, Andrew Allen wrote: > > I suggest you also read > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid/ I read that document. The placement of IMEI in the instance id is a little bit of a non-sequitur to my thinking. There are three cases identified

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Andrew Allen wrote: > I suggest you also read > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid/ > Quoting from that document: “If a URN scheme other than UUID is used, the UA MUST only use URNs for which an RFC (from the IETF strea

Re: Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Andrew Allen
Tim I suggest you also read http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-allen-dispatch-imei-urn-as-instanceid/ That will explain the primary application of this URN which is intended for use in the 3GPP cellular standards. Andrew From: Tim Bray [mailto:tb...@textuality.com] Sent: Friday, July 19, 2

RE: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-trill-directory-framework-05

2013-07-19 Thread Black, David
Hi Donald, All of your responses are fine with me. Thanks, --David > -Original Message- > From: Donald Eastlake [mailto:d3e...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:56 AM > To: Black, David > Cc: ldun...@huawei.com; ra...@alum.mit.edu; i...@yahoo-inc.com; General Area > Review Team;

Last call: draft-montemurro-gsma-imei-urn-16.txt

2013-07-19 Thread Tim Bray
Just wanted to point out that both Apple (for iOS) and Google (for Android) have strongly discouraged the use of IMEI to identify devices for the purposes of application software. There are privacy, quality, and availability issues with their use. Apple has removed the ability of developers to wo

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-trill-directory-framework-05

2013-07-19 Thread Donald Eastlake
Hi David, Thanks for the review. See responses below. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Black, David wrote: > Document: draft-ietf-trill-directory-framework-05 > Reviewer: David L. Black > Review Date: July 17, 2013 > IETF LC End Date: July 18, 2013 > > Summary: > This draft is on the right track