Re: [apps-discuss] Gen-ART review of draft-bormann-cbor-04

2013-08-14 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Aug 13, 2013, at 13:14, Tony Finch wrote: > MessagePack is simpler so will need even less code FWIW, earlier today I had a nice afternoon with the msgpack-ruby C code, converting it to encoding and decoding CBOR instead. Saved ~ 250 lines of C code. Of course, I'm filling in that gap now b

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: > On 8/13/2013 3:20 PM, Joe Hildebrand wrote: > >> One of the reasons why I like the CBOR tag applied to a byte stream is >> that >> it can be used to skip parsing on entire sections (no matter their >> underlying types) in processors that don'

Re: [karp] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-karp-crypto-key-table-08

2013-08-14 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Black," == Black, David writes: Black,> [A] Overall - I would like to see a paragraph added on how Black,> this database conceptually relates to the IPsec Peer Black,> Authorization Database (PAD) - see RFC 4301, section 4.4.3. It doesn't. not even a little bit. It's not IPse

Re: [karp] IANA policy for draft-ietf-karp-crypto-key-table-08

2013-08-14 Thread Sam Hartman
David, as we mentioned in the IESG thread, we seem to have dropped the response to your comments about IANA actions. WG: >From the genart review: [9] I suggest Expert Review for the new IANA registries, not just First Come First Served, so that someone with a security "clue" can check that the

Re: Last Call: (URI Scheme for Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Harald Alvestrand
On 08/13/2013 09:03 PM, S Moonesamy wrote: At 15:14 12-08-2013, Graham Klyne wrote: But, in a personal capacity, not as designated reviewer, I have to ask *why* this needs to be a URI. As far as I can tell, it is intended for use only in very constrained environments, where there seems to be

Re: Last Call: (URI Scheme for Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) Protocol) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Harald Alvestrand
On 08/13/2013 12:14 AM, Graham Klyne wrote: From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce Reply-To: ietf@ietf.org Sender: Subject: Last Call: (URI Scheme for Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) Protocol) to Proposed Standard The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consi

Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database"

2013-08-14 Thread IAB Chair
This is a call for review of "List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database" prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ The Call for Review will la

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > On Aug 14, 2013, at 13:40, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> YANG seems to be incompatible with CBOR. >> >> so what does that say about yang, yang's suitability for netconf, cbor, >> and cbor's suitability? > > Good question. I'm not sure the jury

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Andy, Please see Carsten's mail on this subject. Thanks, Yaron On 2013-08-14 18:18, Andy Bierman wrote: On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: Hi Randy, I prefer to leave this question to people who know something about Netconf, i.e. not me. But let me just say t

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/13/2013 3:20 PM, Joe Hildebrand wrote: One of the reasons why I like the CBOR tag applied to a byte stream is that it can be used to skip parsing on entire sections (no matter their underlying types) in processors that don't need to understand that section. This is an example of the core

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Andy Bierman
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote: > Hi Randy, > > I prefer to leave this question to people who know something about Netconf, > i.e. not me. > > But let me just say that, based on my thoroughly extensive 5-min. research, > YANG seems to be incompatible with CBOR. > Can you be

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Carsten Bormann
On Aug 14, 2013, at 13:40, Randy Bush wrote: >> YANG seems to be incompatible with CBOR. > > so what does that say about yang, yang's suitability for netconf, cbor, > and cbor's suitability? Good question. I'm not sure the jury is even out on that yet. Yaron reminded me that netconf is using

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
> YANG seems to be incompatible with CBOR. so what does that say about yang, yang's suitability for netconf, cbor, and cbor's suitability? randy

Re: Community Input Sought on SOWs for RFC Production Center and RFCPublisher

2013-08-14 Thread t . p .
- Original Message - From: "Ted Lemon" To: "John Levine" Cc: "IETF Discussion Mailing List" Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 4:03 PM > On Aug 13, 2013, at 9:51 AM, John Levine wrote: > > There's no great way > > to send around a redlined document and I'd say that Word formats are > > curr

Re: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard

2013-08-14 Thread Yaron Sheffer
Hi Randy, I prefer to leave this question to people who know something about Netconf, i.e. not me. But let me just say that, based on my thoroughly extensive 5-min. research, YANG seems to be incompatible with CBOR. Thanks, Yaron On 2013-08-14 04:53, Randy Presuhn wrote: Hi - Fr

cbor-05 (was: Last Call: (Concise Binary Object Representation (CBOR)) to Proposed Standard)

2013-08-14 Thread Carsten Bormann
This was a rather productive IETF Last Call! Thank you all for the many comments. Paul and I have taken your comments and believe that we have incorporated the ones that we said we would. The -05 has just been published: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-bormann-cbor-05 ... and there are lot