Re: Last Call: draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt (Retirement of the Internet Official Protocol Standards Summary Document) to Best Current Practice

2013-09-03 Thread Bradner, Scott
the quoted text came from RFC 1602 and is descriptive not proscriptive removing a description of a process that is no longer followed makes sense to me but might not warrant a RFC to do but the 3rd paragraph in section 6.1.3 says: The RFC Editor shall publish periodically an Internet Official

Re: Last Call: draft-resnick-retire-std1-00.txt (Retirement of the Internet Official Protocol Standards Summary Document) to Best Current Practice

2013-09-03 Thread Bradner, Scott
in line On Sep 3, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Pete Resnick presn...@qti.qualcomm.com wrote: On 9/3/13 1:13 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 04/09/2013 04:16, Pete Resnick wrote: On 9/3/13 9:32 AM, Bradner, Scott wrote: ...the 3rd paragraph in section 6.1.3... Good catch. I'll switch

Re: Time Change [Sunday IAOC Overview Session at the Berlin IETF]

2013-07-16 Thread Bradner, Scott
but now it overlaps with the newcomers tutorial so I will not be there Scott On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:42 PM, The IAOC bob.hin...@gmail.com wrote: The time of the IAOC overview session has changed to 1300-1450 (still in Potsdam 1) to avoid overlapping with the Newcomers's Meet and Greet.

Re: Last Call: RFC 2050 to historic

2013-07-11 Thread Bradner, Scott
tnx Scott On Jul 10, 2013, at 7:45 PM, Jari Arkko jari.ar...@piuha.net wrote: Scott, is there a reason to not disclose who the individual participant is? No, but actually that text just came from the standard boilerplate for the last call text in these cases. In reality has been

Re: Last Call: RFC 2050 to historic

2013-07-10 Thread Bradner, Scott
is there a reason to not disclose who the individual participant is? Scott On Jul 10, 2013, at 5:39 PM, The IESG iesg-secret...@ietf.org wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual participant to make the following status changes: - RFC2050 from Best Current Practice to

Re: SHOULD and RECOMMENDED

2013-06-24 Thread Bradner, Scott
while I like to take credit for the good things in RFC 2119 (and disclaim the bad things) - the term RECOMMENDED (good or bad) comes from RFC 1122 basically I copied the definition section from RFC 1122 for the 1st version of what became RFC 2119. (see

Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bradner-rfc3979bis-05.txt

2013-06-12 Thread Bradner, Scott
this is an update to the 3979 bis ID that tries to deal with the comments on the list since the last version see the changes since section for the list of changes thanks Scott Jorge Begin forwarded message: From: internet-dra...@ietf.org Subject: New Version Notification for

Re: Content-free Last Call comments

2013-06-10 Thread Bradner, Scott
better than saying I have not read the document but I support publication I do not see all that much help in having someone list reasons they support publication unless there is some particularly wonderful feature or the prose is particularly clear the reverse is not the case, I think there is

Re: The RFC Acknowledgement

2013-02-11 Thread Bradner, Scott
I have not followed all of this thread but, in case someone had not already mentioned it, acknowledging major contributors is required, but not lessor contributors (that is left up to the authors) see RFC 3978 section 3.4. a Scott On Feb 11, 2013, at 3:28 PM, SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hi

Re: [RFC 3777 Update for Vacancies]

2012-10-24 Thread Bradner, Scott
On Oct 24, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Barry Leiba barryle...@computer.org wrote: 2: For vacancies due to uncontested, sustained absence, the IETF body making that determination will issue an Extended Last Call to the community. Where is Extended Last Call defined? There should be a

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-14 Thread Bradner, Scott
I don't think that the Note Well note has much to do with what Joe started talking about we have had this discussion before quite a few years ago (pre tools) I suggested moving expired IDs to an expired IDs directory rather than removing them from the IETF public repository as well as posting

Re: Feedback Requested on Draft Fees Policy

2012-07-20 Thread Bradner, Scott
great idea - just does not jive with the legal system which often need authenticated copies of documents Scott On Jul 20, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Scott Brim wrote: On Jul 20, 2012, at 9:07 AM, IETF Administrative Director wrote: The draft policy entitled Draft Fee Policy for Legal Requests can

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

2012-06-08 Thread Bradner, Scott
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:20 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote: On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On May 30, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Eliot Lear wrote: • It's probably worth adding a word or two about the fact that the ISOC Board

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

2012-06-08 Thread Bradner, Scott
wfm On Jun 8, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Jun 8, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Bradner, Scott wrote: just to be clear - saying final appellate avenue in the standardization process. could be read as meaning that a appeal of a technical decision could be made to the ISOC Board

Re: Last Call: draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-15.txt (The Tao of IETF: A Novice's Guide to the Internet Engineering Task Force) to Informational RFC

2012-06-07 Thread Bradner, Scott
On Jun 7, 2012, at 7:09 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On May 30, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Eliot Lear wrote: • It's probably worth adding a word or two about the fact that the ISOC Board is the final appellate avenue in the standardization process. In this way it may also make sense to move

Re: Another last call for draft-weil

2012-02-14 Thread Bradner, Scott
(not voting twice, my other address did not seem to work) 1 On Feb 14, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ross Callon wrote: 1. Ross From:ietf-boun...@ietf.org[mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org]On Behalf OfOwen DeLong Sent:Monday, February 13, 2012 2:06 PM To:ietf@ietf.org

Re: Variable length internet addresses in TCP/IP: history

2012-02-14 Thread Bradner, Scott
in the case of IPng, the router people wanted variable length but the host people (or at least some of them) did not Scott Scott O Bradner Senior TechnologyConsultant Harvard University Information Technology Innovation Architecture (P) 1 (617) 495 3864 29 Oxford St. Rm 407 Cambridge,

Re: Another last call for draft-weil

2012-02-14 Thread Bradner, Scott
, David Conrad wrote: I'm curious: how is the IETF stopping ARIN from allocating the space? Thanks, -drc On Feb 14, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Bradner, Scott wrote: (not voting twice, my other address did not seem to work) 1 On Feb 14, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Ross Callon wrote: 1. Ross

Re: Consensus Call: draft-weil-shared-transition-space-request

2011-11-29 Thread Bradner, Scott
to be pedantic - a BCP stands for the best way we know how to do something it is not required that the process actually be in use before the BCP is adopted as Mike O'Dell once said, if BCPs had to reflect what was actually being done we could never have a BCP defining good manners on the IETF

Re: Last Call: RFC 979 (PSN End-to-End functional specification) to HISTORIC RFC

2011-11-02 Thread Bradner, Scott
where is the written justification? recording a reason will help people in the future understand why this was done I object to a reclassification without a RFC saying why Scott On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:16 PM, IESG Secretary wrote: The IESG has received a request from an individual to