Re: leader statements

2013-10-10 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hello, On 10/10/13 4:30 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: On 10/10/13 9:49 AM, manning bill wrote: the leaders are there to inform and moderate the discussion and where possible, indicate that consensus has been reached (or not). when leaders speak out on behalf of organization -particularly- this

Re: Charging remote participants

2013-08-16 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hello, On 8/16/13 11:56 AM, Keith Moore wrote: As someone who just spent $3.5K out of pocket to show up in Berlin, I have a hard time being sympathetic to someone who won't participate because he has to spend $100 out of pocket. Funny reading that under the light of the IETF worried about

Re: IETF 87 Registration Suspended

2013-07-05 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Understandable. After all, they need to bail out whole countries on a regular basis :) On 7/5/13 1:11 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: From: John Levine jo...@taugh.com what's different in Berlin from Paris and Prague and Maastricht. The Germans have more 'zealous' tax collectors? :-)

Re: Conclusions on South American IETF Meeting

2013-06-20 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
+1! On 6/20/13 3:13 PM, Arturo Servin wrote: Thank you Bob and the IAOC for taking the time to analize the possiblities of a meeting outside North America, Europe and Asia. Independently of the result, I think it had been a good opportunity for many of us to take advantage of the

Re: Best list for IETF last calls [was: Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org]

2013-06-09 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
As long the subject clearly identifies a last call request thread, I don't see why the LC's cannot stay here. There are already too many mailing lists in the world. My humble opinion. ~Carlos On 6/7/13 5:00 PM, Melinda Shore wrote: On 6/7/13 11:52 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Rule 1 for

Re: financial fun with an IETF Meeting in South America

2013-05-31 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Jorge, I seriously believe you're overreacting and overrepresenting the actual view of the people in Argentina. Few, if any, members of the Internet community in Argentina and neighboring countries share this view, and almost all of us can't help laughing at the ironic situation where some people

Re: financial fun with an IETF Meeting in South America

2013-05-31 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Whether OT or not you actively contribute to the mood of the discussion. And to have a fruitful discussion on the topic I believe we MUST accurately represent the facts, again, regardless of being OT or not. ~Carlos On 5/31/13 3:07 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: Carlos, I clearly stated that the

Re: [IETF] RE: Time in the Air

2013-05-31 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
We now live in a blessed, sort-of, time, where you perhaps have in-flight Internet but no-one presumes you do, so you get the Internet and its benefits without the constant distraction of other people calling, emailing and expecting immediate answers and all that :D Completely off-topic too, but

Re: [IETF] RE: Time in the Air

2013-05-31 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
You are right, Wellington is almost 7 degrees south of Montevideo, although I hope it's better served by airlines :D cheers! ~C. On 5/31/13 3:24 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: Completely off-topic too, but since I live in the southernmost capital city of the world, and certainly not the best

Re: financial fun with an IETF Meeting in South America

2013-05-28 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
The bad things that happen in Argentina financially affect only Argentinians. I'm not saying this is a good thing overall, just saying that this isn't a problem for tourists and certainly won't be a problem for IETFers. Probably these financial 'issues' will even affect positively the

Re: call for ideas: tail-heavy IETF process

2013-05-14 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Just to echo in some form what others have said, I believe that an intermediate stage between I-D and RFC is needed. I don't have a name for it, but conceptually would be something like 'feature freeze', e.g. no more tweakings to the protocol, or base spec are to be introduced (unless a major

Re: Mentoring

2013-03-18 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Not answering any specific email, just establishing position: - I support a newcomers' list. However, I do believe that the definition of newcomer must be relaxed a bit. A newcomer is not a 'first time attendee'. Being a IETF youngster I would say that for the first three meetings you are a

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
I wasn't offended either, but I can see how some people might have felt. Moving on, what I do believe is that many i-d's could benefit from a review by a linguist. This role, IMO, is different from the role of an editor. The linguist doesn't need to have any technical background. He is more like

Re: Martians

2013-03-12 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Oh, I forgot: NOW TAKE ME TO YOUR LEADER !! :D On 3/12/13 5:48 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: I wasn't offended either, but I can see how some people might have felt. Moving on, what I do believe is that many i-d's could benefit from a review by a linguist. This role, IMO, is different

Re: side meetings and BarBOFs.

2013-03-12 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Not answering to anyone in particular. I agree that BarBOFs are useful, I just wish they were better communicated. If I had learnt about which ones were happening I might have joined. cheers ~Carlos On 3/11/13 9:56 PM, Burger Eric wrote: I think Michael's point is that because a BOF only has

Re: IETF chair's blog

2013-02-28 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
What about possibly 'open' social networks? I remember Quora intended to become something like that. What about something the whateverOverflow sites (StackOverflow, etc). IMO they are some of the best managed technical 'social' sites out there, they do a great job. I can easily imagine a

Re: [IETF] Re: back by popular demand - a DNS calculator

2013-02-20 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Wasn't the 'evil bit' able to hold the value 2 ? Use all evil bits for IP addresses and we'll soon have no need for IPv6. :D ~C. On 2/15/13 6:45 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Feb 15, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Patrik Fältström p...@frobbit.se wrote: On 15 feb 2013, at 18:19, Joe Touch to...@isi.edu

Re: WCIT outcome?

2013-01-03 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
, navigation aids and similar applications), but, IMO, is a less demanding/critical task than it used to be, and thus the workload for the ITU-R should be less than it used to be. cheers! ~Carlos On 1/2/13 3:34 PM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: Carlos M. Martinez Radio spectrum allocation

Re: WCIT outcome?

2013-01-03 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
My only point is that it is not what is used to be. But we can agree to disagree. Happy new year all by the way. ~C. On 1/3/13 11:21 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: I'd like my mobile phone to work all round the world, as it does. It takes more than one band, but only a few. And that

Re: WCIT outcome?

2013-01-02 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hi! On 12/29/12 4:19 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com mailto:jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: ITU was founded previously as the International Telegraph Union before AG Bell's phone was patented, no doubt the evolution of

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-16 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hello, On 11/16/12 1:27 AM, John Levine wrote: Shall we move on? Sure. Since we agree that there is no way to pay for the extra costs involved in meeting in places where there are insignificant numbers of IETF participants, it won't happen, and we're done. I don't remember when I

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
On 11/15/12 3:15 PM, John R Levine wrote: As Arturo says, having people that traditionally go to an IETF meeting travel to (for them) far away places and (for them) new cultures, do definitely open their eyes to how large our world is. I think that learning about other parts of the world is

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hello, On 11/15/12 6:11 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 15/11/2012 03:43, Melinda Shore wrote: We'd reached 50 attendees from China at IETF 63 before we even started seriously negotiating the Beijing meeting. It seems to me that the causality is mainly in the opposite direction:

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Shore wrote: On 11/15/12 8:47 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: I do believe that regions wanting to have an IETF meeting should also give back in terms of active participation, I agree with that. I really think there's an enormous disconnect here. I'm really unclear on how this is supposed

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-15 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
Hi, On 11/15/2012 5:19 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: On 11/15/2012 9:43 AM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: Comparing with the ITU who does tour the world, organizing workshops in far away places, I really think we should be trying a little harder to be more open. It's important to distinguish between

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-14 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
On 11/12/12 6:08 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: On 11/11/2012 18:06, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: ... ... snip ... There's no doubt that personal attendance is the best way to get a full understanding of how the IETF works, but remote participation is supposed to work. I fully agree. However,

Re: Newcomers [Was: Evolutionizing the IETF]

2012-11-14 Thread Carlos M. Martinez
On 11/14/12 3:00 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: On 11/14/2012 04:48 PM, Carlos M. Martinez wrote: I've had much better remote participation experiences in other conferences than I've had with the IETF. Can you provide pointers? Ta, S.

Re: Is there ongoing work on SNMP IPv6 mibs ?

2012-11-09 Thread Carlos M. martinez
I'll take the silence as a NO :-) So, as a humble kinda newcomer, where should I take some ideas regarding IPv6 mibs ? Which should be the appropiate WG ? Cheers! ~Carlos On 11/5/2012 7:18 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: Le 2012-11-05 19:10, Carlos M. martinez a écrit : Other than the CGN-mib we

Is there ongoing work on SNMP IPv6 mibs ?

2012-11-05 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Other than the CGN-mib we discussed today in sunset4, I wondered whether is there ongoing work on this topic. regards Carlos

Re: Is there ongoing work on SNMP IPv6 mibs ?

2012-11-05 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Right, I have this thing that mentions to CGN somehow mean 'ipv6' to me, or rather, 'i don't want to do ipv6' But you are right, there is nothing specific to ipv6 in your work. ~Carlos On 11/5/2012 7:18 PM, Simon Perreault wrote: Le 2012-11-05 19:10, Carlos M. martinez a écrit : Other than

Re: [IAB] IETF 92 in Dallas!

2012-08-16 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Fond memories of my first IETF... We were stuck at a highway exit for 4 hours unable to either cross the swollen river that had been a side road minutes before or to go back. :=) ~Carlos On 8/16/12 4:48 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: ah, the memories ... Tony Hansen On 8/16/2012 2:31 PM,