Re: FSF whinging

2009-02-09 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Feb 9, 2009, at 17:49, Clint Chaplin wrote: I see that the FSF has beeen alerted. Prepare for the flood of very similar whinges from people who have not immersed themselves in the subject at hand. I'm particularly amused by the people who think we should not grant Red Hat the patent. I

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The IETF Trustees invite your comments on ...

2009-01-26 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 26, 2009, at 12:14, John C Klensin wrote: If common sense were relevant here (and it may not be), Fred gets notified of the Note Well and any changes to it in the following cases: If Fred cc's an IETF mailing list he's not on because a discussion on another list has turned to how the

Re: The internet architecture

2008-12-17 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:01, Keith Moore wrote: One could possibly extend getaddrinfo() or make something a bit similar. getaddrinfo() is perhaps already becoming too complex though. A neat thing with extending getaddrinfo() could be to make existing code use SRV without changes. Not exactly

Re: Spammers answering TMDA Queries

2007-10-05 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Oct 5, 2007, at 17:00, Douglas Otis wrote: But what is it? A step beyond grey listing. Beyond implies in vaguely the same direction. From skimming the TMDA description, I don't see that at all. Ken ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org

Re: Do you want to have more meetings outside US ?

2007-07-30 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 30, 2007, at 16:26, Michael Thomas wrote: Would it really be so horrible to, say, have a per day rate? I know that there are a lot of people who are only interested in one or two wg meetings and would just assume go home instead of hanging around, kibbutzing in wg's that you're

Re: Autoreply

2007-07-13 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 12, 2007, at 22:03, Douglas Otis wrote: On Jul 12, 2007, at 8:33 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: That doesn't help much, because then we all still get private vacation messages. Please kick these people off the list. The web interface for Mailman allows subscribers to re-enable their

Re: Autoreply

2007-07-13 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 13, 2007, at 05:09, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 13-jul-2007, at 8:00, Ken Raeburn wrote: That doesn't help much, because then we all still get private vacation messages. Please kick these people off the list. Shutting off their list email when we don't need to seems kind

Re: Autoreply

2007-07-13 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 13, 2007, at 09:05, John C Klensin wrote: However, I think the IETF benefits from policies whose effect is to keep the clueless and inconsiderate off our mailing list until they can be educated. I think most organizations or lists would benefit from such policies. But where does the

Re: Autoreply: Last Call: draft-duerst-archived-at (The Archived-At Message Header Field) to Proposed Standard

2007-07-12 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 12, 2007, at 11:33, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 12-jul-2007, at 16:57, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: So I instruct here the secretariat to *automatically* take the appropriate measures with this case and any other similar one in the future, such as restricting (only) postings from

Re: IETF IPv6 platform configuration

2006-07-05 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jun 11, 2006, at 20:00, IETF Secretariat wrote: All, As you’re all aware, on 06/06/06 NSS successfully launched IPv6 services for IETF Web, Mail, and FTP. Has anyone had FTP work for them when not in passive mode since this configuration change was made? My site's got a clunky old

Re: RFC Author Count and IPR

2006-05-24 Thread Ken Raeburn
On May 24, 2006, at 14:42, Russ Housley wrote: If the people with copyright interest are the combination of the authors plus the contributors, then we need to specify this in a BCP. We might also want to suggest that the acknowledgment specifically indicate if someone contributed text, as a

Re: An absolutely fantastic wireless IETF

2006-03-23 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Mar 23, 2006, at 21:58, Harald Alvestrand wrote: Just wanted to state what's obvious to all of us by now: This time the wireless WORKED, and Just Went On Working. That hasn't happened for a while. THANK YOU! Mmm... well, my laptop (Mac Powerbook) fell off the b/g network several times,

Re: 'monotonic increasing'

2006-02-17 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:14, Tom.Petch wrote: Elsewhere - dictionaries, encyclopaedia, text books - I see it defined so that when applied to a sequence of numbers, then each number is not less than its predecessor, so that That's non-decreasing. As far as I've ever heard (math classes as

Re: 'monotonic increasing'

2006-02-17 Thread Ken Raeburn
Huh. You learn somethin' new every day... On Feb 17, 2006, at 16:06, Tom.Petch wrote: I agree that there is no clear cut case where security will be compromised, but as long as RFC eg RFC1510 (kerberos) tie the concept of nonce to a monotonic increasing sequence, I think the risk is there

Re: draft-hartmans-mailinglist-experiment

2006-01-26 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 26, 2006, at 9:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also I figure anyone banned by an experimental process is going to make a lot of noise in the appeals process and we might start to annoy our counterparts who have to hear them? Isn't the (seemingly) requisite appeal following any action

Re: IETFs... the final Friday?

2006-01-23 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 23, 2006, at 17:07, Allison Mankin wrote: 2. Some of us wondered if Friday would be more attractive if the net didn't come down at noon, so that if you commit to staying for the WG meeting on Friday morning, and you have a late flight, or fly out the next morning, you can get some work or

Re: Meeting Survey Results

2006-01-23 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 23, 2006, at 21:57, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: In my own case, having a Mac is not easy to get built-in 802.11a. I can of course buy an external card, Are there cards with Mac OS X drivers nowadays? If I knew where to get one, I'd consider it, given the condition of the 802.11b/g

Re: objection to proposed change to consensus

2006-01-08 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 6, 2006, at 09:02, Sandy Wills wrote: This is not a change; this seems to be the way the IETF works. Many group gatherings work the same way; to me its an intuitive way of getting any/all objections brought up, or establishing that there aren't any, after a period of free

Re: objection to proposed change to consensus

2006-01-06 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 5, 2006, at 18:35, Sandy Wills wrote: People who agree will mumble yeah under their breath and otherwise ignore the post. People who disagree will reply on the list. After two weeks, someone will compare the size of the subscriber list to the number of negative replies, and we'll

Re: Baby Steps (was RE: Alternative formats for IDs)

2006-01-05 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 5, 2006, at 09:25, Ash, Gerald R ((Jerry)) wrote: I'd suggest we try to reach consensus first on the following: Alternative format(s) for IDs, in addition to ASCII text, should be allowed. One requirement/motivation for this change (as set forth in the ID) is to be able to include

Re: Baby Steps (was RE: Alternative formats for IDs)

2006-01-05 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:49, Stewart Bryant wrote: Ken Raeburn wrote: Personally, I'm skeptical that we'll find an alternative that meets our requirements as well, but perhaps we'll wind up with plain UTF-8 text or something. How would I encode graphics in UTF-8? Same as you do in ASCII

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-29 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Sep 29, 2005, at 9:39, Dean Anderson wrote: Let me ask you Ken: Are you participating in the IETF as part of your job? Or are you just here for personal kicks? It's part of my job; has been for a few years. It has nothing to do with legal standing. Its a question of etiquette. Office

Re: delegating (portions of) ietf list disciplinary process (fwd)

2005-09-28 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Sep 28, 2005, at 21:20, Dean Anderson wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Dave Singer wrote: This was offlist, but I think it is relevant, now to similar questions raised by others. Yes, emailed to you offlist. Do you have NO idea of professional courtesy? You do not post personal emails by other

Re: regarding IETF lists using mailman: nodupes considered harmful

2005-08-26 Thread Ken Raeburn
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Aug 26, 2005, at 03:14, Jeroen Massar wrote: Indeed when some 'malicious' person would add Cc's/To's and would instruct his SMTP to not forward to the additional addresses in the Cc/To the users will effectively not receive the message. But

Re: regarding IETF lists using mailman: nodupes considered harmful

2005-08-26 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Aug 26, 2005, at 05:42, Jari Arkko wrote: I realize that this is something that could happen. Interesting attack! But I missed the part where its somehow news to us that e-mail system can be tricked in various ways. It's not. But that doesn't mean we need to add new ways, and enable them

Re: Port numbers and IPv6

2005-07-15 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jul 15, 2005, at 11:59, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: For TCP, the issue is less critical as there are already other mechanisms that allow us to move away from well known port numbers. One is the SRV DNS record that I mentioned yesterday, but if you set your way back machine to 1988 you'll

Re: Hawthorne Effect

2005-06-23 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jun 23, 2005, at 13:03, Steve Crocker wrote: On Jun 23, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Ned Freed wrote: For anyone who was sleeping during the relevant Psych 101 lecture, this is called the Hawthorne effect. Damn. I knew there was a famous study that identified this effect, but I couldn't remember

Re: IANA Considerations

2005-06-08 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Jun 8, 2005, at 14:23, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Wednesday, June 08, 2005 01:59:19 PM -0400 Bruce Lilly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evidently (and unfortunately) the IETF Secretariat apparently doesn't enforce that part of the ID-Checklist rules. Aside from making sure the proper

Re: MARID back from the grave?

2005-02-24 Thread Ken Raeburn
--On Thursday, 24 February, 2005 16:03 -0500 Tony Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, the rule about -00 drafts could be modified to allow them to be posted on the followup date IF and ONLY IF they are now a WG draft AND they've been previously published as an individual submission. But not

Re: IETF hotels charging the deposits and not reimbursing?

2004-11-18 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Nov 18, 2004, at 11:38, Scott W Brim wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2004 06:15:03PM +0200, Pekka Savola allegedly wrote: At IETF60, the Sheraton hotels charged me both for the deposit of one day, and for all days I stayed there. Now at IETF61, I noticed that the Hilton has also charged me for the

Re: Sponsor T-shirt Thank You...

2004-11-08 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Nov 8, 2004, at 11:24, Spencer Dawkins wrote: Just a quick thank-you to Alcatel for providing t-shirts that are long-sleeved, heavier-weight than usual, and (my personal favorite) non-pure white I second that. These do seem quite nice. (though, for future sponsors: pockets are nice too. :-)

Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-10 Thread Ken Raeburn
On May 10, 2004, at 14:17, Dean Anderson wrote: It seems that WG co-chair has begun to use an email address that is defaming Av8 Internet, Inc by returning business email to users of Av8 Internet claiming that Av8 Internet has hijacked some address space. That may or may not be, but since you

Re: Processing of Expired Internet-Drafts

2004-01-14 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Wednesday, Jan 14, 2004, at 11:43 US/Eastern, Fred Baker wrote: At 07:52 AM 1/14/2004, The IETF Secretariat wrote: When an Internet-Draft expires, a tombstone file will be created that includes the filename and version number of the Internet-Draft that has expired. The filename of the

Re: SMTP Minimum Retry Period - Proposal To Modify Mx

2004-01-09 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Friday, Jan 9, 2004, at 18:00 US/Eastern, Mike S wrote: Meanwhile, the site that's actually rejecting your mail has made that decision *itself*, that it doesn't want to receive mail from you, possibly with MAPS as one component of the information used to make said decision. To have a chance

Re: SMTP Minimum Retry Period - Proposal To Modify Mx

2004-01-09 Thread Ken Raeburn
On Friday, Jan 9, 2004, at 22:06 US/Eastern, Mike S wrote: At 06:43 PM 1/9/2004, Ken Raeburn wrote... If you think there's some violation of law going on here, please be more specific. What law, and in what country? Try to keep up. A specific citation has already been made. Not in any mail I've

Re: SDL Demo and ITU CD QA

2001-12-09 Thread Ken Raeburn
At IETF-52 in Salt Lake City, you will find in your registration kit a CD, courtesy of ITU The people at the registration desk say these CDs have not arrived, but we'll be notified when they do. So don't be surprised if you don't find a CD in your kit... Ken

Re: NATs *ARE* evil!

2000-12-19 Thread Ken Raeburn
"Theodore Y. Ts'o" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kerberos tried to deal with this problem by talking about "canonical domain name", which it tried to define as being the name that you got when you took a DNS name, forward resolved it to get an A address, and then reverse-resolved it to get a DNS