p-v6/IPsec/IPv4.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux u
ould prefer that we change:
IESG selecting two sitting ADs to continue
to
IESG selecting two people as ADs
That is, the IESG could select people who aren't currently sitting ADs. (or
they can select sitting ADs)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine.
. To the east (the right as you edit), Harris goes down
a hill. Go east a block, cross, turn left (north). There is the front
entrance to the hotel.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|ne
mall...)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another Debian GNU/Linux using, kern
.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel h
illing to establish DVMRP and PIM tunnels to anyone who wants.
Do I have any feed of info? No. But maybe we can rebuild something useful.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net arc
junk sent by email, not more.
The whole FAX over email problem is simply endemic of the fact that we have
no(%) *end-user* to *end-user* file transfer protocols.
(To be useful, we would ideally need a global PKI, but we can certainly
start simpler)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human.
ng
Robert> they have any interest in doing.
Okay, so they won't do that, and they won't secure their zones, or provide
keys in their zones.
Don't tell *me* what I can and can't do.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
]
s, none produced.
http://www.ietf.org/ietf/02mar/siked.txt
and the mailing list at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.
#x27;t
the problem being solved.
These people want to run IP over satellite television networks, and they
can not easily upgrade the "routers" without either very long arms or a lot
of H_2 + LOX.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michae
t, I am actually far more price sensitive
on the hotel and food costs than I am on anything. (And the ritzier the
hotel, the higher the cost of the food, and the availability of a peanut
butter sandwidth goes way down).
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls
hat sexy, KEY and KX records are!
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another NetBS
with huge disks and processors
that make "workstations" seem a joke, IETF becomes a chance to catch up
on work without distractions from colleagues/bosses/etc.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Otta
ng any route will be dropped by such a router."
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic(&quo
thing for at least one other day.
I would remove the second plenary only if it were going to result in there
being fewer tracks of meetings for the rest of the week. Use Friday morning
as well.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson
would
work just fine for me. There may be some logistical problems (Sunday's
reception usually occurs in the same room as the plenary does).
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net a
I personally have never been able to reschedule a flight from late Friday
to early Friday - the flights are full.
I personally think that it would be nice to have a sign-up page for each
WG session in advance. This would help scheduling and room allocations.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is hu
r the late-comers/early-exiters.
That would be rather easy to arrange, along with the attached helium balloon.
Low-tech is often better :-)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON
/schedules/viewRoutes.asp?group=ski
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another N
the small print and b) checked the "opt out" box?
That's one the advantages of using a text browser - all print is the same
size :-)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works,
The final registration page,
https://register.novell.com/reg/register3.cfm
uses JavaScript in the submit button for no discernable reason.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON
I suspect that he is rather at higher
elevations as it does look cold for Kentucky.
As for the comments about C/F --- the presence of F at all means that he
was raised in the US. The presence of C means that he is an academic.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. |
of a system that functions well despite lack of end-node
identification. In fact, large amounts of money have been spent (and made,
which is the problem - it created new opportunities, which people want to
exploit. Ditto for NAT) on the problem.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovin
ks for some businesses perhaps. It fails in most white collar work.
Ever try to get ahold of someone *AFTER THE RECEPTIONIST HAS GONE HOME*?
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net arc
the
abundance of the other...)
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net architect[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/ |device driver[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
it with DNSSEC). The major obstucle is the "IPtelcos"/CableCos
who aren't being very retinscent to actually let people being peers rather
than just client-consumers. There is, with dynamic DNS update no reason why
they should not permit people with "always-on" IPs to populate
ephen> my offer to supply the format checking program.
I too would like to see such a policy.
Perhaps it has to come from the IETF Chair.
] ON HUMILITY: to err is human. To moo, bovine. | firewalls [
] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works, Ottawa, ON|net arc
pammer/head-hunter target if
made too easily accessible, but we already have that problem. I would
certainly like to have this on ietf-censored :-)
Lloyd> Quite a few IETFers have more than one email address.
Yes.
Canadian Commuter Challenge Project -- GNU Potato Caboose
Michael Richard
it is "IPv6" with the src and dst address reversed and in little endian :-)
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little
ot think that the IETF should broadcast in Real*, if there
is a real demand for that, then it should be simple for someone to provide
unidirectional translation services if desired.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems
to be done at making file transfer services more available.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little fishy gone?|PAX.port 1
n getting an address
Scott> long before many of the non-macs around me got addresses
I've noticed that the leases are rather long, so often when I got an
address very quickly, it was because I got my old lease back.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|
a lot to be desired, but as I'd
never have to leave the hotel, I might not care.
I think it should still rotate to different parts of the planet.
[From: address changed to avoid 30+ vacation messages]
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabi
escribe that as a "layer-3 and 4 aware layer-2 switch".
In my terminology, anything that is a "layer 3 switch" == router, if it
decrements the TTL. If it doesn't touch the TTL, then it isn't a router.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|g
ures AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little fishy gone?|PAX.port 1100[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
labour in that WG)
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, without being hampered
graham> by poor communication tools.
If they are that complicated, then they are too complicated.
ASCII diagrams are a complexity filter.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh
Vernon> author address lists.
Who are these people?
Headhunters? Managers? Product Marketing people?
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Personal: http://www.sandelman.ottaw
hall's
Harald> DTD) text or Word documents.
As long as every document in the "source" area has an ID, RFC or publically
available web page that explains the format of that document, I think that
this idea is great.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrict
>>>>> "Vernon" == Vernon Schryver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> From: Michael Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I would like to see the IETF continue to consider the ASCII text to be
>> the master.
>>
>>
the XML->ASCII formatter on a web site, and basing it open
some open source implementation.
Authors should provide the ASCII because they should have proofread
that version as well.
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Michael Richardson |For a bet
nce
it uses the SMTP From: to determine subscription.
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eople, and then
dealing with the "why is that spam there..." etc.
If this is too strong medecine for the IETF, then a system of
"+censored" lists would help.
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Michael Richardson |For a bette
ed primarily
to send text messages (e.g. do "peer-to-peer" type things), I'd say that
the love for NATs will very soon decline.
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Michael Richardson |For a better connected world,where data flows faster
Per
6.arpa, which I understand.
I don't get your statement above.
I can understand:
"ip6.arpa" is for "bitstring" labels (i.e. reverse maps)
But, I don't get what you mean by "non-bitstring labels".
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off r
So, such a message would be better done as a straight clear-signed message.
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her consider it a feature that Internet Draft announcements and RFC
James> announcements are multipart with functional pointers to the
Emphasis on *pointers*
Sending of IDs to the WG lists is a terrible practice.
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ing "wb" so that the multicast can just pick that up.
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Personal: http://www.sandelman.ottawa.on.ca/People/Michael_Richardson/Bio.html
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
s.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little fishy gone?|PAX.port 1100[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
Again I will bring up RFC1123.
I am so tired of having my mailbox fill up with junk.
This notice should
a) not be sent to "all" due to the precedence "bulk"
b) should never be sent to "To:", only to the envelope sender
c) should not be sent outside your organization,
So maybe WG chairs should have the right to unplug the wireless access
points :-)
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little fishy gon
6to4 is very cool.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richardson, Solidum Systems Oh where, oh where has|problem with[
] [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.solidum.com the little fishy gone?|PAX.port 1100[
] panic("Just another NetBSD/notebook using, kernel hacking, security guy"); [
--- they use the
From: address for "errors", not the From_ address. Their vacation programs
can not ignore "Precedence:" headers, etc.
They all use the same mail systems, btw.
] Train travel features AC outlets with no take-off restrictions|gigabit is no[
] Michael Richard
ir
stated purpose.
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
point, you may get to: Keith Moore of +1 999 555-1212, on
1400 Pennsylannia Blvd.
So, one winds up with a unique identifier. It is many bits larger
than "Keith Moore".
Thus, we have 128 bits in IPv6.
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> "Daniel" == Daniel Senie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Daniel> meetings primarily in Las Vegas. Vegas has the advantage of TONS
Daniel> of hotel rooms, plenty of meeting space, and everything's close
Daniel> together. The hotel rooms are relatively cheap (no idea about the
Dan
y ever finish remodeling
that hotel?). I didn't make LA the second time, so I don't know if it
occured in the same hotel or not. The first time (when we were 1400 or so,
I think) was perfect in LA.
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Michae
ETF
caused a simple search of that engine. It would be even nicer if the
results were in a standard form.
However, I do not see an economic reason why would want to
implement this.
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Michael Richardson |For a better con
airport, and they told me that would
happily provide free shuttle to the trolley if you ask.
But, no matter, that hotel is full already.
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Michael Richardson |For a better connected world,where data flows faster
Per
o use whatever MUA that adds the "X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service" header?
I'm considering simply starting an RBL-type list that lists the IP
addresses of mail system that use such a thing.
] In San Diego, on the way to N+I Atlanta |gigabit with big ACLs is[
] Michael R
, I surmise, since it is very targetted to, e.g. IPsec, typically
two days after my last post...)
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y they begin to look like a
Brian> metro exchange and something longer than a /29 TLA prefix might be
Brian> OK. But I tend to agree with Sean.
Bingo. That's what we (a group of interested parties, not Solidum) are
looking to setup among five friendly small/medium sized
5 sites, but it's just a tad more then
Valdis> O(n)... ;)
If we *DON'T* create this swamp, then we won't have enough IPv6 experts to
force deployment. This is a serious chicken and egg situation.
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ere I am using IPv6 instead of RFC1597, then
my address can't be topologically significant.
c) multihoming.
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Michael Richardson |For a better connected world,where data flows faster
Personal:
ut, where do I get that chunk of IPv6 address space?
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
o problem.
So, my opinion is that the bottleneck for deploying IPv6, and therefore
getting rid of NAPTs is the cost of IPv6 address space.
... 3ffe:1ce1:0:fe50::29 (alas, from experimental space)
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