IAB Statement on Identifiers and Unicode 7.0.0

2015-01-27 Thread Russ Housley
The IAB has just posted a statement on Identifiers and Unicode 7.0.0. Please read it here: https://www.iab.org/documents/correspondence-reports-documents/2015-2/iab-statement-on-identifiers-and-unicode-7-0-0/ On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Volunteer Needed for ICANN Technical Liaison Group

2014-10-22 Thread Russ Housley
to iab-chair at iab.org and execd at iab.org by 21 Nov 2014. On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Re: Volunteers for the 2015 ICANN Nominating Committee

2014-07-16 Thread Russ Housley
This is a gentle reminder that volunteers need to send in their short statements in by Friday. Thanks for considering this position, Russ Housley IAB Chair On Jul 3, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Russ Housley wrote: Dear Colleagues: The IAB (on behalf of the IETF) has been asked to supply

Volunteers for the 2015 ICANN Nominating Committee

2014-07-03 Thread Russ Housley
that these teleconferences will held weekly during the candidate assessment process in May and June. For more information about the ICANN NomCom see: http://nomcom.icann.org/ On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Appointments for ICANN Technical Liaison Group

2014-01-28 Thread Russ Housley
strong candidates. On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair Dear Colleagues, The IAB recently requested nominations to the ICANN Technical Liaison Group (TLG). We have a number of candidates, and we are soliciting comment from the community on these candidates. The following

Welcome New Internet Society CEO, Kathryn C. Brown

2013-12-19 Thread Russ Housley
Forwarding on behalf of Bob Hinden, Chair of the Internet Society Board of Trustees. - On behalf of the Board of Trustees, I am very pleased to announce that we have chosen Kathy Brown as the next Chief Executive Officer of the Internet Society. The ISOC Board conducted a very

Comments Requested on Candidates for ICANN Technical Liaison Group

2013-11-23 Thread Russ Housley
...@gmail.com Please send your remarks in confidence about any or all candidates to iab-ch...@iab.org and ex...@iab.org. We thank you in advance for your help. Best regards, Russ Housley IAB Chair Dear Colleagues, The IAB (on behalf of the IETF) has been asked to supply two technical

Gen-ART Review of draft-resnick-on-consensus-05

2013-10-11 Thread Russ Housley
: Russ Housley Review Date: 11-October-2013 IETF LC End Date: 11-November-2013 IESG Telechat date: Unknown Summary: This draft is ready for publication as an Informational RFC. Major issues: Section 4 says: ... members of any given working group ... Working groups do not have members; they have

Re: Montevideo statement

2013-10-09 Thread Russ Housley
SM: This is the second time that the IAB has issued a statement without requesting comments from the IETF Community. In my humble opinion it would be good if there was a comment period. This is a statement about what happened at a meeting. Discussion would not change what happened at the

Re: Montevideo statement

2013-10-09 Thread Russ Housley
, At 09:24 09-10-2013, Russ Housley wrote: This is a statement about what happened at a meeting. Discussion would not change what happened at the meeting. Making the statement very public allows a good discussion of what should happen next. I look forward to that discussion. One

Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-siprec-architecture-08

2013-09-23 Thread Russ Housley
: Russ Housley Review Date: 2013-09-23 IETF LC End Date: 2013-10-01 IESG Telechat date: Unknown Summary: Major Concerns: The use of required in Section 3.2.4 is confusing to me. It says: In a basic session involving only audio there are typically two audio /RTP streams between the two

Re: Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Russ Housley
Jim: 1) DNSSEC needs to have the time within one hour. But these devices do not have TOY clocks (and arguably, never will, nor even probably should ever have them). So how do you get the time after you power on the device? The usual answer is use ntp. Except you can't do a DNS

Re: pgp signing in van

2013-09-06 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: is pgp compromised? PGP is a packaging method. Absent grossly incompetent packaging -- and I've never heard claims that PGP or S/MIME were guilty of that -- my sense is that the interesting security mechanisms are the underlying algorithms. Is there something about PGP that

Re: [IAB] Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread Russ Housley
Patrik: Thanks for the correction. The error is mine. Russ On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 31 aug 2013, at 18:33, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote: An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability

Re: [IAB] Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-08-31 Thread Russ Housley
Patrik: Thanks for the correction. The error is mine. Russ On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:51 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 31 aug 2013, at 18:33, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote: An active member in the IETF and ICANN communities, Russ serves as a vice-chair of the Security Stability

Re: [IAOC] Community Input Sought on SOWs for RFC Production Center and RFC Publisher

2013-08-17 Thread Russ Housley
In my experience, the RFC Editor relies on authors to compile non-MIB ASN.1 modules. Russ On Aug 17, 2013, at 8:09 AM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 13:16 -0700, Sandy Ginoza wrote: 2) In the following, we suggest that ASN.1 (and particularly MIBs and MIB-related

Re: [IAB] Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-16 Thread Russ Housley
SM: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ From Section

Re: Berlin was awesome, let's come again

2013-08-02 Thread Russ Housley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have also enjoyed my time in Berlin. However, we need to complete the analysis on the impact of VAT. I hope there is a way to avoid a cost to each participant of an 19%. We heard in plenary that VAT clearly applies to conferences, but it may

Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-nandakumar-rtcweb-stun-uri-05

2013-07-26 Thread Russ Housley
Reviewer: Russ Housley Review Date: 26-July-2013 IETF LC End Date: 16-Auguest-2013 IESG Telechat date: Unknown Summary: This draft is basically ready for publication as a Standards Track RFC, but a few questions should be answered. This document is the specification of the syntax and semantics

Re: IETF 87 Technical Plenary Experiment

2013-07-22 Thread Russ Housley
experiment is also available on the IAB wiki page: http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/iab/trac/wiki/IETF-87#IETF87TechnicalPlenary:OPUSCodec On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Call for Community Input on the ICANN Nominating Committee Volunteers

2013-07-22 Thread Russ Housley
Townsley Samuel Weiler Hassan Zaheer The community is invited to send comments about this selection to the IAB chair iab-chair at iab.org and the IAB Executive Director execd at iab.org. We expect to make a decision within the next few weeks. Thanks in advance, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Re: Second Call for Volunteers to Serve on the ICANN Nominating Committee

2013-07-12 Thread Russ Housley
, please send an email to iab-chair at iab.org and execd at iab.org. On behalf of the IAB, Russ Housley IAB Chair

Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats

2013-07-02 Thread Russ Housley
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html Every appeal ever submitted to the IESG and its response can be found here. On Jul 2, 2013, at 7:37 PM, l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: Do we have any statistics on how many appeals to the IESG fail and how many succeed? If I knew that 97% of appeals get

Re: [IAB] RSOC Appointments

2013-06-25 Thread Russ Housley
Arturo: The original call for nominations did this in two ways. First, it pointed to RFC 6635, which defines the role of the RSOC. Second, it included a list of the top four items that the RSOC is focusing on right now. The current focus of the RSOC is on: 1) Overseeing and assisting the

Gen-ART Review of draft-ietf-manet-rfc6622-bis-02

2013-06-14 Thread Russ Housley
: Russ Housley Review Date: 2013-06-15 IETF LC End Date: 2013-06-27 IESG Telechat date: Unknown Summary: The document is almost ready for publication as a standards track RFC. I raise one major concern, and once it is resolved, the document will be ready. Major Concern: In Section 12.2.3

Re: Renaming RFC

2013-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
I think this suggestion should be discussed on rfc-interest, not this mail list. Russ On Jun 12, 2013, at 5:55 PM, l.w...@surrey.ac.uk l.w...@surrey.ac.uk wrote: RFC should be renamed to Resulted From Comments. It's now the endpoint of the process; Request For Comments dated from when it

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-pkix-est-07.txt (Enrollment over Secure Transport) to Proposed Standard

2013-06-10 Thread Russ Housley
I have read the document, I a support publication on the standards track. Russ On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:45 AM, The IESG wrote: The IESG has received a request from the Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509) WG (pkix) to consider the following document: - 'Enrollment over Secure Transport'

Re: APPSDIR review of draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01

2013-05-16 Thread Russ Housley
Tobias: Thanks for the review. Really, the delegation id to the RIRs. which in turn use the ICANN ASO to establish global policy. Thanks again, Russ On May 16, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Tobias Gondrom wrote: Hi, I have been selected as the Applications Area Directorate reviewer for this

Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-savi-threat-scope-07

2013-04-09 Thread Russ Housley
David: Thanks for your efforts on this document. Your first review was in May 2011, and the document has improved greatly for you continued pushing on the concerns. Russ On Apr 3, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Black, David wrote: The -07 version of this draft resolves all of the issues raised by the

draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01

2013-04-07 Thread Russ Housley
Many of the comments that were posted to this list have been incorporated. Please comment on the updated document. Russ = = = = = = = = = A new version of I-D, draft-housley-rfc2050bis-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Geoff Huston and posted to the IETF repository. Filename:

(Former) IETF Chair Interview

2013-04-05 Thread Russ Housley
This was recorded in January 2013, when I was the IETF Chair. It was not released until March 20th, when I was no longer IETF Chair It is 15 minutes. It is not aimed at a technical crowd. Russ

Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)

2013-04-03 Thread Russ Housley
Alexey: Of course we want to be able to delete spam, but this is being used to access an archive, so only the administrator should be able to delete the spam. Russ On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: On 27 Mar 2013, at 20:31, Robert Sparks rjspa...@nostrum.com wrote: While

Re: Missing requirement in draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch? (was Re: New Version Notification - draft-sparks-genarea-imaparch-05.txt)

2013-04-03 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: Alexey: Of course we want to be able to delete spam, but this is being used to access an archive, so only the administrator should be able to delete the spam. Russ On Apr 1, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: On 27 Mar 2013, at 20:31, Robert Sparks

Re: Last Call: draft-ietf-mpls-tp-use-cases-and-design-06.txt

2013-03-23 Thread Russ Housley
I wonder if the direction of Section 1.2 can be revised to make it more of an engineering document. It currently says: In recent years, the urgency for moving from traditional transport technologies, such as SONET/SDH, TDM, and ATM, to new packet technologies has been rising. This is

Re: Please review draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt

2013-03-22 Thread Russ Housley
Elwyn: Two points: Rereading things again, I have another suggestion; 4) Split the Goals of the Internet registry system out of the Introduction. The Intro starts out talking about the document, its goals, and what is in scope and out of scope of the document. Then transitions to

Re: Please review draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt

2013-03-22 Thread Russ Housley
On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:04 PM, SM wrote: At 12:43 20-03-2013, Elwyn Davies wrote: This contains some woolly hand-waving weasel words at the end: I looked up the meaning of weasel words and found the following: words and phrases aimed at creating an impression that something specific

Thank you to Monique Morrow for her service as ITU-T NGN liaison manager

2013-03-20 Thread Russ Housley
Next time you see Monique, please thank her for he service the the Internet community. From: IAB Chair [iab-ch...@iab.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:04 PM To: Monique Morrow Subject: Thank you for your service as NGN liaison manager Dear Monique,

Thank you to Monique Morrow for her service as ITU-T NGN liaison manager

2013-03-20 Thread Russ Housley
Next time you see Monique, please thank her for he service the the Internet community. From: IAB Chair [iab-ch...@iab.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:04 PM To: Monique Morrow Subject: Thank you for your service as NGN liaison manager Dear Monique,

Re: Please review draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt

2013-03-19 Thread Russ Housley
David: 1) In Section 1, goal #2, Hierarchical Allocation, I believe a reference the definition in RFC 5226 - Section 4.1. Well-Known IANA Policy Definitions, should be considered. We could do so, but I do not believe that the few word in RFC 5226 on hierarchical allocation improve the

IETF 86 Admin Plenary Minutes

2013-03-18 Thread Russ Housley
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/86/minutes/minutes-86-iesg-opsplenary Please review and comment. Russ

Please review draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt

2013-03-16 Thread Russ Housley
A new, I-D, draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt, has been posted. I am writing to ask for your review. Russ = = = = = = = = = = Filename:draft-housley-rfc2050bis-00.txt Title: The Internet Numbers Registry System Creation date: 2013-03-14 Group: Individual

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-05 Thread Russ Housley
extracting RAI from Transport? Allison On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com wrote: Margaret: The problem with this argument is that it appears that we have a choice between limited knowledge of congestion control and an empty seat. Which one is more likely

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-04 Thread Russ Housley
The leadership in the ITU does not read the documents. Why? Their job is to make sure that the process was followed. The IESG needs to make sure the process was followed too. But, the IESG also has a quality check job. I would hate for this debate to lead to a step toward the ITU model.

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-04 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: The leadership in the ITU does not read the documents. Why? Their job is to make sure that the process was followed. The IESG needs to make sure the process was followed too. But, the IESG also has a quality check job. I would hate for this debate to lead to a step toward the

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-04 Thread Russ Housley
Sam: So in conclusion, I strongly value technical contribution and demonstrated ability to pick up new knowledge in an AD. I do not highly value knowing all the things going on in a specific area at the time the AD joins the IESG. We mostly agree. We both agree that strong technical

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-04 Thread Russ Housley
Margaret: The problem with this argument is that it appears that we have a choice between limited knowledge of congestion control and an empty seat. Which one is more likely to be able to learn about it? If that were the extent of this discussion, then the answer would be obvious. It is

Re: Appointment of a Transport Area Director

2013-03-04 Thread Russ Housley
Mary: The problem with this argument is that it appears that we have a choice between limited knowledge of congestion control and an empty seat. Which one is more likely to be able to learn about it? If that were the extent of this discussion, then the answer would be obvious. It is

Re: Internet Hall of Fame Celebrates Internet Leaders: Second Annual Induction Ceremony Set for June 2013 in Istanbul, Turkey

2013-02-01 Thread Russ Housley
The Internet Hall of Fame nominations are now open. Please provide your nominations here: http://internethalloffame.org/nominations. Thanks. Russ http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-hall-fame-celebrates-internet-leaders-second-annual-induction-ceremony-set-june-2013 You may

Internet Hall of Fame Celebrates Internet Leaders: Second Annual Induction Ceremony Set for June 2013 in Istanbul, Turkey

2012-12-19 Thread Russ Housley
http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-hall-fame-celebrates-internet-leaders-second-annual-induction-ceremony-set-june-2013 You may know someone that deserves to be nominated ... Russ = = = = = = = = Internet Hall of Fame Celebrates Internet Leaders: Second Annual Induction Ceremony Set

Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft

2012-12-03 Thread Russ Housley
Perhaps I did, but I am talking about Working Group Drafts 1.1. What is a Working Group Draft? Documents under development in the IETF community are distributed as Internet Drafts (I-D). Melinda and/or Randy have said what I want to say, but as a factual clarification to

Re: IESG Considering a Revision to NOTE WELL

2012-11-06 Thread Russ Housley
Brian: Jorge has reviewed this text. He says that the current text and this proposed text are both summaries. Both say that it is important to read the BCP to get all of the details. Russ On Nov 6, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I don't much like the change in approach. I

Re: IESG Considering a Revision to NOTE WELL

2012-11-06 Thread Russ Housley
Stephan: Based on the number of late disclosures that are occurring, it is clear to us that we need to use very plain language to explain the responsibilities to participants. Russ On Nov 6, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Stephan Wenger wrote: Hi, Russ, can you explain why the IESG considers it

Re: IESG Considering a Revision to NOTE WELL

2012-11-06 Thread Russ Housley
Stephan: Based on the number of late disclosures that are occurring, it is clear to us that we need to use very plain language to explain the responsibilities to participants. That's an interesting statement. To summarize the (long) message below, I don't think that empirical data

Re: Antitrust FAQ

2012-11-04 Thread Russ Housley
Alessandro: No. We held a BOF to answer exactly that question. The conclusion was that no new policies were needed, but that educational material was desirable. Russ On Nov 3, 2012, at 7:49 PM, Alessandro Vesely wrote: On Thu 01/Nov/2012 18:31:47 -0400 Russ Housley wrote: A formal

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-03 Thread Russ Housley
John: I assume at this point the IAOC would like to pursue the recall option? If not, please be very clear about it to the list as I haven't actually seen a request from the IAOC for that process to proceed as far as I can tell. Because I am personally very reluctant to see this handled

Re: Antitrust FAQ

2012-11-01 Thread Russ Housley
A formal policy requires IETF consensus, and it would be published as a BCP in the RFC series. Russ On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:23 PM, David Rudin (LCA) wrote: At a high level, I'm curious what the difference is between an FAQ and a formal policy? I ask since Section 6 of the FAQ seems to be

Re: Recall petition for Mr. Marshall Eubanks

2012-11-01 Thread Russ Housley
Mike: As Joel already said, the recall process is not dependent on the wishes of the IAOC. Further, please note that IAB, IESG, and IAOC members cannot be recall petition signers. RFC 3777 says: 1. At any time, at least 20 members of the IETF community, who are qualified to be voting

Re: I* Member Removal Process

2012-11-01 Thread Russ Housley
Mike: Yup. But I'd say their wishes would have a great deal of influence on whether or not this would go forward. And I'd still like to get at least some indication that this is their desired outcome at this point. I think, if nothing else, this needs to be part of whatever record

Re: REMINDER: Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'

2012-10-24 Thread Russ Housley
Stephane: On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 07:09:22AM -0700, IAB Chair iab-ch...@iab.org wrote a message of 155 lines which said: This is an IETF-wide Call for Comment on 'Affirmation of the Modern Paradigm for Standards'. What's the point of this Call for Comment? Was there any chance that

Re: In Memoriam IETF web page

2012-10-22 Thread Russ Housley
i started the thread on nanog. i am not sure abha or jon would want to be on such a list. remember them and honor and carry on their work, don't memorialize them. With all respect, it is not just about the person, it is about their work, its importance, the history of this Internet and

Re: In Memoriam IETF web page

2012-10-21 Thread Russ Housley
I am very supportive of this idea. Russ On Oct 21, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: Folks, A thread on the nanog list, about abha ahuja, reminds me of a suggestion I made casually to a few folk after the last IETF meeting: We should consider having a persistent IETF page in

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Housley
I agree that this sentence needs changed. However, I think that one other sentence should be updated while we are dealing with the IAOC in this document. RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting member of the IESG or IAB may be questioned,

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-04.txt (Update to RFC 3777 to Clarify Nominating Committee Eligibility of IETF Leadership) to Best Current Practice

2012-09-27 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: I agree that this sentence needs changed. However, I think that one other sentence should be updated while we are dealing with the IAOC in this document. RFC 3777 says: Member Recall: This is the process by which the behavior of a sitting member of the IESG or IAB may

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt (Document Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational RFC

2012-09-25 Thread Russ Housley
I felt that the IETF Last Call would bring it to the attention of the community. This seems worthwhile because the opinions are about an IETF process. Russ On Sep 25, 2012, at 3:13 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: Hi, I don't understand the process for this document. I read Russ's words, but

Re: Last Call: draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt (Document Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle) to Informational RFC

2012-09-25 Thread Russ Housley
SM: The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Document Shepherding Throughout a Document's Lifecycle' draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd-00.txt as Informational RFC The author is documenting his own opinion, and he is presenting

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-24 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: The IESG has updated the draft IESG Statement based on the many comments that have been received. It is clear that the community wants the IESG to be able to remove an Internet-Draft from the Public I-D Archive without a court order to do so. That said, the IESG firmly believes

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-24 Thread Russ Housley
Dave: This second basis looks sufficiently broad and vague to invite its own abuse and certainly inconsistent application. Did IETF counsel express comfort with this language? Counsel has been consulted. After exchanging several messages, this is the resulting text. This text was never

Re: Neutering the impending patent wars... this is something the IETF can actually have a role in...

2012-09-24 Thread Russ Housley
Todd: The intended recipients are two public mail lists. Given that situation the legend at the bottom of you message seems inappropriate to me. Russ On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:30 PM, tglassey wrote: [snip] Todd Glassey -- //Confidential Mailing - Please destroy this if you are not the

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-24 Thread Russ Housley
Todd: The Independent Submission Stream cannot be used to produce standards track RFCs. Russ On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:36 PM, tglassey wrote: On 9/24/2012 7:02 AM, Russ Housley wrote: Dave: Russ - can the Independent Submission Stream (ISS) be used to create a fully franchised IETF Standard

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-21 Thread Russ Housley
I believe that the IETF has all of the necessary rights to reproduce, distribute, and display publicly all Internet-Drafts. Here is my analysis: In RFC 1310, March 1992, the IAB describes Internet-Drafts, but it does not define the rights that contributors grant. As best I can determine, the

Re: copyright notices in RFC 6716

2012-09-18 Thread Russ Housley
Simon: The authors wanted to grant additional rights beyond those that are granted by the TLP. They indicated those rights in Section 10 of the internet-Draft. This was challenged during WG Last Call, and it was challenged during IETF Last Call. In each case, the authors make their desire

Re: copyright notices in RFC 6716

2012-09-18 Thread Russ Housley
of a particular document. I'm happy if this is now the policy, as it would allow including more source code into RFCs. /Simon Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com writes: Simon: The authors wanted to grant additional rights beyond those that are granted by the TLP. They indicated those

Re: copyright notices in RFC 6716

2012-09-18 Thread Russ Housley
demand is not permitted even if there is community support for the content of a particular document. I'm happy if this is now the policy, as it would allow including more source code into RFCs. /Simon Russ Housley hous...@vigilsec.com writes: Simon: The authors wanted to grant

Re: Draft IESG Statement on Removal of an Internet-Draft from the IETF Web Site

2012-09-04 Thread Russ Housley
Alessandro: If an I-D is posted with secret text, then the secret is disclosed. I-D are copied to many shadow repositories all over the world. So, removing the I-D from ietf.org will not remove the secret text from the Internet. Please explain what you mean by inappropriate boilerplate? The

Re: Number of interim meetings?

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Housley
The announcements for interim meetings are posted here: http://www.ietf.org/meeting/interim.html. Without doing any statistical analysis, the list does not show a shift in the way the IETF is working. Some WGs like to make use of face-to-face or virtual interim meetings. Most do this when they

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

2012-08-17 Thread Russ Housley
The document says: o Bullet 3, paragraph 1 is replaced by this: The nominating committee comprises at least a Chair, 10 voting volunteers, 4 liaisons, and an advisor. The Past Chair is missing. The adviser is not required,

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

2012-08-17 Thread Russ Housley
The document says: o Bullet 15 is replaced by these two bullets: 15.1. Members of the Internet Society Board of Trustees and sitting members of the IAB, the IESG, and the IAOC, including

Re: New Version Notification for draft-leiba-3777upd-eligibility-01.txt

2012-08-17 Thread Russ Housley
The document says: o Bullet 3, paragraph 1 is replaced by this: The nominating committee comprises at least a Chair, 10 voting volunteers, 4 liaisons, and an advisor. The Past Chair is missing. The adviser is not

Re: Progress with Open Internet endowment

2012-08-03 Thread Russ Housley
As of Friday morning, we are very close to the goal. As of 9:00 AM this morning, we have $24,905 from 80 donors. Please help if you can. Thanks, Russ On Aug 2, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Russ Housley wrote: Our current totals as of noon today, the Open Internet Endowment has received $19,245

Re: Progress with Open Internet endowment

2012-08-03 Thread Russ Housley
Thank you! We made it. We received $26,255 from 90 donors. Thanks agin, Russ On Aug 3, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Russ Housley wrote: As of Friday morning, we are very close to the goal. As of 9:00 AM this morning, we have $24,905 from 80 donors. Please help if you can. Thanks, Russ

Progress with Open Internet endowment

2012-08-02 Thread Russ Housley
Our current totals as of noon today, the Open Internet Endowment has received $19,245 from 54 donors. Thanks to all. It would be great to reach $25,000 (or more) from 75 donors (or more) by lunch tomorrow. Please help if you can. There will be a table at the Bits-N-Bites tonight. People

Re: Draft IESG Statement Regarding Ethertype Requests

2012-07-30 Thread Russ Housley
Dan: Only protocol specifications make use of Ethertypes. The statement is intended to apply to any protocol specification on the IETF Stream (Standards Track RFC, Informational RFC, or Experimental RFC) that needs to allocate a new Ethertype. Russ On Jul 30, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Romascanu,

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-dps-framework-08

2012-07-18 Thread Russ Housley
Joe: I think you missed my point. In a PKI, when the issuer significantly changes the policy, subsequent certificates have a different policy identifier. I do not see a similar concept here. You're right, I did miss your point, quite thoroughly :-) I am guessing that the answer is

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-dps-framework-08

2012-07-17 Thread Russ Housley
Joe: I think you missed my point. In a PKI, when the issuer significantly changes the policy, subsequent certificates have a different policy identifier. I do not see a similar concept here. Russ On Jul 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Joe Abley wrote: Hi Russ, On 2012-07-15, at 11:39, Russ

Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-dps-framework-08

2012-07-15 Thread Russ Housley
Peter: Thanks for the review. I've not read this document yet, but you review raises a question in my mind. If a DNSSEC policy or practice statement is revised or amended, what actions are needed make other aware of the change? Russ On Jul 14, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Peter Yee wrote: I am the

Fwd: NomCom 2012-13 Call for Volunteers

2012-07-07 Thread Russ Housley
, and thus the positions for which the nominating committee is responsible for filling, are as follows: IAOC: Dave Crocker IAB: Alissa Cooper Joel Halpern David Kessens Danny McPherson Jon Peterson Dave Thaler IESG: Russ Housley (General Area) Pete Resnick (Applications Area

Re: bits-n-bites: Exhibitors and product vendors hawking wares at anIETF meeting?

2012-07-04 Thread Russ Housley
. Cheers, Mehmet -Original Message- From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Russ Housley Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:41 PM To: Thomas Nadeau Cc: IETF discussion list Subject: Re: bits-n-bites: Exhibitors and product vendors hawking wares

Re: Comments for I-D of Publishing the Tao of the IETF as a Web Page

2012-07-04 Thread Russ Housley
Julian: Do you object to http://www.ietf.org/tao-archive for the old version of the Tao? Russ On Jul 4, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: On 2012-06-21 23:08, Russ Housley wrote: This URL http://www.ietf.org/tao will bring up the current document. It works exactly the same as http

Re: Comments for I-D of Publishing the Tao of the IETF as a Web Page

2012-07-04 Thread Russ Housley
Julian: No, I was just trying to understand *why* the archive can't be at http://www.ietf.org/tao/archive. I was told that we cannot have http://www.ietf.org/tao directed to the document and also be the directory containing the archive directory. Russ

Re: bits-n-bites: Exhibitors and product vendors hawking wares at an IETF meeting?

2012-06-28 Thread Russ Housley
There was a long discussion about this event prior to it being scheduled. Sorry you missed that discussion. We will have a discussion after the event to determine if we should do it again. Russ On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Thomas Nadeau wrote: Has the IETF morphed into a

Re: Comments for I-D of Publishing the Tao of the IETF as a Web Page

2012-06-21 Thread Russ Housley
This URL http://www.ietf.org/tao will bring up the current document. It works exactly the same as http://www.ietf.org/tao.html. This means that http://www.ietf.org/tao/archive cannot be used as suggested on this thread. I propose the following URLs for the Tao: - current Tao:

Re: Change in I-D announcement format

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
Brian: There was no announcement that this change was about to be deployed; however, there was a long discussion of the change. It started with a request for the HTML version of the I-D instead of the plain text version. At the end of the discussion the decision was to use the Datatracker

Re: Last Call: draft-krishnan-nomcom-tools-01.txt (Requirements for IETF Nominations Committee tools) to Informational RFC

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
I want to highlight one think in this document. The document says: There is an existing tool for supporting Nomcom work. The set of requirements specified in this document are mainly enhancement requirements or behavior changes to the existing tool. Unless otherwise stated all of

Re: Publishing the Tao as a web page

2012-06-13 Thread Russ Housley
Paul: It implies that the current RFC will become the initial web page content. I think that is not the case. Rather, the initial content will come from draft-hoffman-tao4677bis. Do you want draft-hoffman-tao4677bis to be published as the final RFC version in the Tao series? Russ On Jun

Re: I-D Action: draft-hoffman-tao-as-web-page-00.txt

2012-06-11 Thread Russ Housley
Paul and Brian: Oh, one thing I now realise is that the draft doesn't state that the editor (in deciding what changes to adopt) and the IESG (in approving an update) will of course do so by a normal IETF consensus process (presumably ad hoc last calls) and subject to appeal like anything

Re: Friday scheduling in YVR?

2012-06-04 Thread Russ Housley
Andrew: That is the current plan, but we have not seen all of the WG requests yet, so it is subject to change. Russ On Jun 4, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Andrew Sullivan wrote: Dear colleagues, At the last meeting in Paris, the Friday sessions ended by 13:30. I haven't seen (but might have

Re: Making the Tao a web page

2012-06-01 Thread Russ Housley
I have a concern here. When I did the AD review for this document, I was quite surprised how stale it had become. For example, the document told people to send I-Ds to the Secretariat for posting instead of pointing to the online I-D submission tool. If we put it in a wiki, there will be

Re: Last Call: draft-polk-ipr-disclosure-03.txt (Promoting Compliance with Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) Disclosure Rules) to Informational RFC

2012-05-27 Thread Russ Housley
Sam: I'm seeking clarity. Are you suggesting that the pre-WG mail list ask this question while drafting the charter, or are you suggesting that the IESG include this question in the call for external review of the charter, or both? Russ On May 26, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Sam Hartman wrote: I'd

Re: Future Handling of Blue Sheets

2012-05-24 Thread Russ Housley
For what it is worth, here is my opinion on this subject (which I was asked to post here). I see possible privacy law problems with posting the blue sheets, so I would not. I see a good reason to scan and have images of new blue sheets, make it easier to respond to subpoenas. I do

Re: Leverage Patent Search API to reduce BCP79 related issues [was: Re: Last Call: draft-farrresnickel-ipr-sanctions-05.txt]

2012-05-10 Thread Russ Housley
BCP 79 says: Reasonably and personally known: means something an individual knows personally or, because of the job the individual holds, would reasonably be expected to know. This wording is used to indicate that an organization cannot purposely keep an individual

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