I am part of the community design team as well
... as being the coauthor of a MANET RFC!
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
because all IETF document are examined by IESG
No they're not. See RFC4844.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun [abdussalambar...@gmail.com]
Sent: 02 October 2013 13
...and a rebuttal from Jeff Schiller.
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12497.html
Pass the popcorn.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk [l.w
http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography@metzdowd.com/msg12325.html
That's a pretty damning indictment of the development of IPSec from John
Gilmore.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
There is no upside.
By signing your mail you lose plausible deniability, remove legal doubt as to
what you said...
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ted Lemon
[ted.le...@nominum.com
Surely, pgp signing in vain?
Don't know about you, but I value plausible deniability.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush
[ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 06 September 2013 01:45
/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun [abdussalambar...@gmail.com]
Sent: 25 August 2013 12:27
To: Pete Resnick
Cc: dcroc...@bbiw.net; ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Rude responses (Was: Last Call: draft-ietf
-net.com/L.Wood/
LC should not be treated as a right of passage, to test the patience of
folks who have developed a document.
rite?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
you didn't write.
- campaigning for changes to the posting summary that now regularly lists you
as Number One poster on this list
You believe that your reputation is harmed, would require saving for meaningful
interaction, and that you need pseudonymity?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
Okay,
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-resnick-on-consensus-00.txt
can there be anything to discuss on not having consensus, developing two
competing solutions in the same WG, and then having to downselect to one?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
I would be very sorry to see IETF *working* meetings turned into
something closer to conferences,
with poster sessions!
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
AB
How many IETFs have you attended?
How many professional meetings have you organised?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun [abdussalambar...@gmail.com]
Sent: 16 July
to be tried out.
(I've never really understood the IETF business model. I understand ISOC's
model even less.)
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Phillip
Hallam-Baker [hal...@gmail.com
Ah, Allison actually misspelled it in setting her reply-to. So all replies
would bounce.
Seriously guys, nom-com is the way to go to reduce this confusion. Needs a
minus.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
On plus side, I didn't make the typo, only copied it and couldn't spot it. Go
me
of the Major Organization.
And the members of the working group.
This suggests that we can't produce viable committees _anyway_.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Crocker
[d
Email to noncom-chair-2...@ietf.org appears to fail - bounce below.
If Allison hasn't received any feedback, that's why.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists:
noncom-chair-2...@ietf.org
The recipient's e-mail address
Gah. Am idiot misspelling it, sorry.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk [l.w...@surrey.ac.uk]
Sent: 08 July 2013 08:38
To: ietf@ietf.org; noncom-chair-2...@ietf.org
It strikes me that 'membership fees' as opposed to 'entrance fees' could work
around this payment issue. Or incur a different tax...
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Martin Rex
[m
C: does my appeal look more like the club of 3, or the club of 11?
I think there's a new club of one.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
.)
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-announce-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
Of The IESG [i...@ietf.org]
Sent: 02 July 2013 23:24
To: abdussalambar...@gmail.com
Cc: ietf-annou...@ietf.org
Subject: Appeal Response
-1
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Noel Chiappa
[j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu]
Sent: 29 June 2013 13:28
To: ietf@ietf.org
Cc: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: RE: Comments For I-D
here.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
Are the IESG people who disagree with you speaking for the IESG, or for
themselves?
I've noticed a tendency for IESG weight to be (inadvertently?) thrown around,
lending more weight to comments than would otherwise be given.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
We have to know, not that you have read the document, but that you have
-understood- it.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush
[ra...@psg.com]
Sent: 11 June 2013 09:51
Ad-hominem arguments are not good arguments.
Peer review depends on what the peer says, not who the peer is - something any
academic should know.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf
How many RFCs describe things that are implemented?
How many RFCs describe things that are deployed?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland
[d...@cridland.net]
Sent: 11 June
idea of what's going on is a good thing, no? I'm willing to bet that at least
half of our design problems have resulted from people doing narrowly-focused
work in only one group or area...
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org
Asking IETF WG chairs to deal with passwords is a bit silly.
Maybe they could be emailed a monthly reminder of their personal subscription
password on the first of each month.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf
Is the IETF a task force of the Internet Society?
RFC2031 documented the takeover. Snuck through on informational...
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of SM
[s...@resistor.net]
Sent: 06
Always Europe gets better results because it is the favoriate meeting-location
for ALL
businesses
{{citation needed}}
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun
differences.
At the very least, a 'this doesn't cover IRTF research groups, where practices
very widely' is needed.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E
Carpenter [brian.e.carpen
clearly, all IETF meetings should be in Cape Town, Wellington, or Perth,
because more time in the air means more time without interruption where drafts
can be read before the meeting.
quiet time on a plane can be productive time.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
) to solve their technical problems.
You'd love the Pacific.
Few IETFers get exposed to these kinds of environments.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
).
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mark
Nottingham [m...@mnot.net]
Sent: 30 May 2013 01:45
To: Abdussalam Baryun
Cc: ietf
Subject: Re: Participation per Region of Authoring IETF documents
Any sense of why that didn't happen with Australians after
the Adelaide meeting?
The centres for networking industry in Australia are Melbourne and Sydney, in
that order.
It's a bit like IETF 51 being held in Grimsby, not London or Cambridge.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
Melinda,
can you confine yourself to disagreeing with something I actually said?
Thanks so much!
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Shore
[melinda.sh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 29
I already requested before that all WGs SHOULD
discuss their milestones and update it in each
meeting or on the list.
No-one cares what you requested.
Didn't you get banned from the MANET list for lack of useful content?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
-dovey bunch of hippies working in harmony for humanity.
The IETF is hardball.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Doug Ewell
[d...@ewellic.org]
Sent: 15 May 2013 22:28
To: ietf@ietf.org
http://labs.apnic.net/blabs/?p=309
an excellent detective story on badly-written, poorly edited, standards track
RFCs leading to interop problems. Enjoy.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
Technical writer and editor, native English speaker, IELTS score of 9.0,
vaguely appalled
limited resources, so
it's outside the span of attention from a wg. But still worth documenting as
experimental.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: Yoav Nir [y...@checkpoint.com]
Sent: 19 April 2013 10:02
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: wor
and the point of your ad-hominem argument is what, exactly?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/publications/internet-drafts
From: Yoav Nir [y...@checkpoint.com]
Sent: 18 April 2013 15:18
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: wor...@ariadne.com; ietf
A statistician? This entire thread is basically arguing that the IETF needs a
human resources department.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian E
Carpenter [brian.e.carpen
anything?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun [abdussalambar...@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 April 2013 10:37
To: a...@anvilwalrusden.com
Cc: ietf
Subject: Re: IETF Diversity
badge.
The IETF is run by goers, and goers like goers.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dale R. Worley
[wor...@ariadne.com]
Sent: 17 April 2013 21:38
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re
directions? If
not, they're just bureaucrats. Safe pairs of hands. And probably not that
technical.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: Yoav Nir [y...@checkpoint.com]
Sent: 18 April 2013 10:02
To: Wood L Dr (Electronic Eng)
Cc: wor...@ariadne.com; ietf
an
IETF are rather slim. I'll just have to leave it to all you first-world western
northern-hemisphere types,
no matter how much diversity you lack, and how much transport perspective you
need.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
I am deeply offended by your '5 continents' and lack of inclusiveness.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
I come from a land down under.
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Abdussalam
Baryun [abdussalambar...@gmail.com
If you think security and congestion are arcane, you have... problems.
This was an actual ietf working geoup, and not some e.g. W3c thing?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of t.p
redesign attempt overriding considered expertise of a workgroup - isn't
helping here.)
There are two examples I know of, off the top of my head, telated to transport
because that's my area of interest. Can others provide further examples?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
There's a lot of hysteresis... because calling it funny is often a stretch.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Scott Brim
[s...@internet2.edu]
Sent: 08 April 2013 20:34
To: Lucy Lynch
All April 1 RFCs should not be categorised historical but
Category: CLASSIFIED TOP SECRET EYES ONLY NEED TO KNOW SIPRNET COBRA VATICAN
FNORD KNITTING PATTERN
Distribution: Unlimited.
We should also start a December 25 series. With something on SOCKS.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
Time's arrow is written gt;
Abusallam,
if you want namecheck credit on an internet draft, may I suggest simply writing
an internet draft yourself?
(I would also recommend leaving writing drafts until after a PhD is complete;
for the PhD, it's academic papers that matter.)
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
RFCs say how, but rarely why.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
Elwyn said
As regards 'history': RFCs record 'state' and not history. That isn't
Actually, as there's already a five-author limit on RFCs, acks are already
subject to guidance...
Did rfc2223bis expire? Section 2.12 there.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda
You mean going 'Chatham House rule'?
(i'm just commenting on this thread so that when it results in an I-D
recommending how to write acks, I get acked...)
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org
Joel,
the small shops you worked for were in the US, right?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Joel M.
Halpern [j...@joelhalpern.com]
Sent: 23 March 2013 03:24
To: Mark Prior
Cc: John
There's always some excuse as to why multi-homing is never done properly.
On 03/19/13 20:38, Michael Richardson allegedly wrote:
Actually, I'd just settle for a badge that wasn't always
backwards.
It costs a lot more to get lanyards that attach at two corners.
An ad-hominem argument, Melinda?
really?
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Melinda Shore
[melinda.sh...@gmail.com]
Sent: 21 March 2013 01:01
To: m...@sap.com
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject
David,
Kudos on writing this up. The community would imo benefit from this experience
being
put into an internet draft with a view to informational RFC, for wider
visibility.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 04:41:43PM -0400, David Harrington wrote:
Hi,
Many
/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Masataka Ohta
[mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp]
Sent: 06 March 2013 11:37
To: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: congestion control? - (was Re: Appointment of a Transport Area
Director
://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
From: ietf-boun...@ietf.org [ietf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dearlove,
Christopher (UK) [chris.dearl...@baesystems.com]
Sent: 05 March 2013 11:55
To: m...@sap.com; bra...@isi.edu
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: RE: congestion control
expertise
concerns me.
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn
Congestion control is essential else we have congestive collapse, which
I have had to find and fix in my time; but I am positing that for most
of the IETF, congestion control is a solved topic and little expertise
is needed, in contrast
://personal.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/publications/index.html#bundle-problems
http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/AERO.2009.4839384 )
Lloyd Wood
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/dtn
This draft does not discuss the Content-* rule. Content-* headers are special,
in that they may not be ignored (section 9.6 of [RFC2616]). Recipients not
understanding Content-blah: will generate a 501 (Not Implemented) error code.
That overrides the proposal below, I think.
The proposal in
not use' (and what's the alternative?).
draft-turner-md5-seccon-update needs to be much, much clearer on this and in
setting scope for use of MD5.
regards,
L.
-Martin
Lloyd Wood
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
___
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.
I've now filed two errata on RFC4270.
regards,
L.
Lloyd Wood
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
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or repeating everything in RFC 4270 (i.e., I'd rather
not be verbose).
spt
Lloyd Wood
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
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I understand that this issue has been raised with the authors privately
previously by others, but has not been addressed.
Lloyd Wood
l.w...@surrey.ac.uk
http://sat-net.com/L.Wood
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