Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-04 Thread Dale R. Worley
From: Steve Crocker st...@shinkuro.com I honestly don't remember whether the plugs were the clunky four pin or the then-modern RJ11. I recall studying RJ11 and RJ45 plugs and sockets at some point and discovering that some plugs and sockets had six wires instead of only four or two. I

Re: Acoustic couplers (was: WCIT outcome?)

2013-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
it. The reason for acoustic couplers was that the RJ-11 had been invented yet and it was a pain to unscrew the box on the wall and re-wire every time you wanted to connect. ... It may have been illegal in some countries but certainly not in the US. Huh

Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-03 Thread Dave Crocker
On 1/2/2013 7:08 PM, Ned Freed wrote: Of course. However, we're talking about post-Carterphone here. Carterphone was 1968, and I'm sure four pin plugs were in use by then. Not in Los Angeles. As I recall, all the phone around there were hardwired into the 70s. Also keep in mind that

Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-03 Thread Steve Crocker
In 1974 I moved into a condo complex in Marina del Rey near USC-ISI. As has been my usual practice, I ordered two POTS lines and I went to the phone company to get the phones. The condo was pre-wired with jacks in each of the major rooms. The phones I got from the phone company came with

Re: Acoustic couplers (was: WCIT outcome?)

2013-01-03 Thread Janet P Gunn
...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Cc: ietf@ietf.org Date: 01/03/2013 08:48 AM Subject: Re: Acoustic couplers (was: WCIT outcome?) Sent by: ietf-boun...@ietf.org --On Wednesday, January 02, 2013 13:34 -0800 ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: From: John Day jeanj...@comcast.net I remember when

Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, January 03, 2013 06:52 -0800 Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: ... A line mod was probably against the rules irrespective of Carterphone in those days. But had you bought your own phone with a ringer switch and hooked that Not allowed at that point. All user equipment

Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-03 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, January 03, 2013 10:10 -0500 Steve Crocker st...@shinkuro.com wrote: In 1974 I moved into a condo complex in Marina del Rey near USC-ISI. As has been my usual practice, I ordered two POTS lines and I went to the phone company to get the phones. The condo was pre-wired with

Re: Acoustic couplers

2013-01-03 Thread Steve Crocker
I honestly don't remember whether the plugs were the clunky four pin or the then-modern RJ11. I recall studying RJ11 and RJ45 plugs and sockets at some point and discovering that some plugs and sockets had six wires instead of only four or two. I never did learn if they had a different

Acoustic couplers (was: Re: WCIT outcome?)

2013-01-02 Thread ned+ietf
On 1/2/2013 1:34 PM, ned+i...@mauve.mrochek.com wrote: Now, your point about rewiring the jack may in fact be the reason for _post-Carterphone_ acoustic couplers, but it was indeed at one time illegal to connect directly (other than AT+T/WE supplied equipment). I'm skeptical about