Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. My guess is that draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired cannot update RFC 2026.

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
I am having trouble understanding this discussion. If the data is in a database then surely the production of RFC xx00 standards series is simply running an automated query on the database and emitting the result as an RFC?

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread John C Klensin
--On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 14:01 -0500 Pete Resnick presn...@qti.qualcomm.com wrote: On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread SM
Hi Pete, At 12:01 20-08-2013, Pete Resnick wrote: The IESG and the IAB had an email exchange about these two points. Moving a document from Standard to Historic is really an IETF thing to do. And it would be quite simple for the IETF to say, We are no longer asking for the 'Official Protocol

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/20/13 3:26 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: If the data is in a database then surely the production of RFC xx00 standards series is simply running an automated query on the database and emitting the result as an RFC? I'm sure that such a tool could be created. To date, I believe the

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread Tony Hansen
On 8/20/2013 3:01 PM, Pete Resnick wrote: On 8/15/13 2:06 PM, SM wrote: At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. My guess is that

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-20 Thread Pete Resnick
On 8/20/13 4:21 PM, Tony Hansen wrote: I support this. But it also raises a couple other questions. What about rfcxx99 series, published along with the rfcxx00 series? Were they ever formally retired? That's not an IETF matter. There's no STD on this. There's nothing (AFAICT) in a BCP

Re: [IAB] Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-16 Thread Russ Housley
SM: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ From Section

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-16 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, August 15, 2013 12:06 -0700 SM s...@resistor.net wrote: At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I think that if we worried about every minor deviation from RFC 2026, we would be here for a long time and wasting most of it. I have no particular objection to publishing the draft. Regards Brian Carpenter (who tried and failed - see draft-carpenter-rfc2026-critique,

Re: Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-15 Thread SM
At 11:48 14-08-2013, IAB Chair wrote: This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here:

Call for Review of draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired, List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database

2013-08-14 Thread IAB Chair
This is a call for review of List of Internet Official Protocol Standards: Replaced by an Online Database prior to potential approval as an IAB stream RFC. The document is available for inspection here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rfced-rfcxx00-retired/ The Call for Review will