On 2004/12/07, Bob Kahn wrote:
I think it fair to state in the document what the IETF thinks appropriate
for it to manage its own affairs going forward, but one of the matters we
will have to work out is the fact that there is considerable IP generated
over the past almost twenty years. At
The most helpful aspect of this exercise is that is is helping to define
with the IETF what it wants to happen going forward. With good will and a
certain amount of professionalism on all sides, I don't think it should be
too hard to get from here to there.
I agree that this is about the
Not to interject specifics into a near consensus, but wouldn't it be
reasonable to require that either:
1) Software to access and alter data be open-source and provided,
or
2) data be in a well-defined and documented format for which software to
manipulate the data can be promptly produced
I think both are reasonable tools for implementation of the principle.
--On onsdag, desember 08, 2004 00:38:22 -0500 Dean Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Not to interject specifics into a near consensus, but wouldn't it be
reasonable to require that either:
1) Software to access and alter data
Hi folks,
it seems that we are drawing close to a consensus here:
- Access to data that the IETF has created and needs to function is a
paramount basic principle. Not to be compromised. So it needs to go VERY
plainly into section 2.2 principles.
- Access to software is a very-nice-to-have, but
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
Hi folks,
it seems that we are drawing close to a consensus here:
- Access to data that the IETF has created and needs to function is a
paramount basic principle. Not to be compromised. So it needs to go VERY
plainly into section 2.2 principles.
- Access to
on 2004-12-06 10:29 am Harald Tveit Alvestrand said the following:
...
Replace the current section from 2.2 that says:
6. The right to use any intellectual property rights created by any
IASA-related or IETF activity may not be withheld or limited in
any way by ISOC from
I agree with what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure about this
wording:
The IAD is responsible for ensuring that all contracts give the IASA
and the IETF the rights in data that is needed to satisfy the principle
of data access.
Maybe:
The IAD is responsible for ensuring that all
6. The IASA, on behalf of the IETF, shall have an irrevocable,
permanent right of access and later use to all data created
in support of the IETF's activities, including
the right to disclose it to other parties of its choosing.
...
Reasonable, but I want to be
Margaret Wasserman wrote:
I agree with what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure about this
wording:
The IAD is responsible for ensuring that all contracts give the IASA
and the IETF the rights in data that is needed to satisfy the principle
of data access.
Maybe:
The IAD is responsible
--On mandag, desember 06, 2004 13:25:31 +0100 Brian E Carpenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Margaret Wasserman wrote:
I agree with what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure about this
wording:
The IAD is responsible for ensuring that all contracts give the IASA
and the IETF the rights in data
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 07:00:32AM -0500, Margaret Wasserman allegedly wrote:
I agree with what you are trying to say, but I'm not sure about this
wording:
The IAD is responsible for ensuring that all contracts give the IASA
and the IETF the rights in data that is needed to satisfy the
Harald,
I am enroute back to Washington at the moment, but did want to comment on
IP matters.
I think it fair to state in the document what the IETF thinks appropriate
for it to manage its own affairs going forward, but one of the matters we
will have to work out is the fact that there is
At 03:41 07/12/2004, Bob Kahn wrote:
Harald,
I am enroute back to Washington at the moment, but did want to comment on
IP matters.
I think it fair to state in the document what the IETF thinks appropriate
for it to manage its own affairs going forward, but one of the matters we
will have to
Dr. Kahn,
I am sure that if we so desire, we can keep laywers entertained for several
years sorting out the ownership of reserves, data and systems created using
funds from IETF meeting fees. But we should not allow this potential for
trouble prevent us from making a clear picture of what we
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