IETF Gurus,
I'm looking for a URN scheme that uses DNS for uniqueness (perhaps in
conjunction with a date) but doesn't have any attached semantics. I'm
asking this beacuse XML has the duck problem. It uses URIs for
namespace names, but only the URI syntax (for uniqueness), thus you see
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 11:48:27AM -0400, Clark C . Evans wrote:
I'm looking for a URN scheme that uses DNS for uniqueness (perhaps in
conjunction with a date) but doesn't have any attached semantics. I'm
asking this beacuse XML has the duck problem. It uses URIs for
namespace names, but
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 12:07:19PM -0400, Michael Mealling wrote:
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|dnsurn://clarkevans.com/2002/my-data-type#my-format
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| Thus, the scheme follows *exactly* the syntax of HTTP (to keep learning
| curve down) only that the date is required immediately following the
| domain name.
ick. please don't embed URIs in URNs. that will just tempt people
to use the embedded URIs and not treat them as URNs.
I can see wanting to have a URN that's based on DNS, but there shouldn't
be any expectation that you can derive a URI from the URN just by
modifying the syntax. that defeats
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 12:07:19PM -0400, Michael Mealling wrote:
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|dnsurn://clarkevans.com/2002/my-data-type#my-format
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| It sounds like you want the 'duri' namespace currently going through the
| process. It was written by Larry Masinter and is currently here:
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From: Clark C . Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [xml-dev] DNS based URIs that don't imply access method
Ok. I've also asked this question on the ietf list and
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:35:08PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
| ick. please don't embed URIs in URNs. that will just tempt people
| to use the embedded URIs and not treat them as URNs.
I'm not set at all on using URIsh syntax. I just thought
it'd be the easiest approach.
| I can see wanting
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:35:08PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
| ick. please don't embed URIs in URNs. that will just tempt people
| to use the embedded URIs and not treat them as URNs.
I'm not set at all on using URIsh syntax. I just thought
it'd be the easiest approach.
| I can see
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:29:33PM -0400, Clark C . Evans wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:35:08PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
| ick. please don't embed URIs in URNs. that will just tempt people
| to use the embedded URIs and not treat them as URNs.
I'm not set at all on using URIsh
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:40:07PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
| 1. it doesn't matter whether the components are reversed or not.
| 2. you do need a date, because domain names change hands.
| 3. it's not a good idea to embed any more human-meaningful content
|in a URN than necessary to get
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:48:29PM -0400, Michael Mealling wrote:
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| urn:dns:com.clarkevans:MyPackage
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| Where the first three components are always small caps.
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| The problem is that URNs are required to be non-reasignable. So if
| the part between the second and third colons is
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 04:36:22PM -0400, Clark C . Evans wrote:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:48:29PM -0400, Michael Mealling wrote:
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| urn:dns:com.clarkevans:MyPackage
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| Where the first three components are always small caps.
|
| The problem is that URNs are required to be
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:31:11PM -0700, Karl Auerbach wrote:
| On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Clark C . Evans wrote:
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|- it uses DNS to gaurentee uniqueness
|
| That's not a solid foundation for uniqueness. There are multiple DNS
| spaces in use. One is almost completely dominant, but others do
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:01:45 EDT, Clark C . Evans said:
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 01:31:11PM -0700, Karl Auerbach wrote:
| That's not a solid foundation for uniqueness. There are multiple DNS
| spaces in use. One is almost completely dominant, but others do exist.
It's good enough.
OK...
- it uses DNS to gaurentee uniqueness
The DNS does not guarantee uniqueness outside of a TTL;
you need a timestamp to accomplish this.
- next is a domain name in *small caps*
Do you mean lower-cased?
- a standard httpish path per URI specification.
There are a lot of does this
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 04:39:12PM -0400, Michael Mealling wrote:
| On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 04:36:22PM -0400, Clark C . Evans wrote:
| Ok, would this fly?
|
| urn:dns:yaml.clarkevans.com,2002;MyPackage
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| Thank you both for humoring me. YAML needs something clean
| like this for
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 03:40:07PM -0400, Keith Moore wrote:
| 1. it doesn't matter whether the components are reversed or not.
| 2. you do need a date, because domain names change hands.
| 3. it's not a good idea to embed any more human-meaningful content
|in a URN than necessary to get
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