On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:08:42PM -0700,
Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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Further most people who participate in non-profits do not fit the
legal definition of member. In the world of non-profits, that
term has very specific meaning and carries very
I'd like to observe that the IASA was created so that the IETF as
a whole wouldn't need to bother about these administrative matters.
Brian
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On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:00:17PM +0200,
Brian E Carpenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
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I'd like to observe that the IASA was created so that the IETF as a
whole wouldn't need to bother about these administrative matters.
I am not sure I understand. If you mean
Title: Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...
Todd
Those are not exactly the facts. The two notes I wrote and posted on the ABA InfoSec list yesterday (10/12-- a.m pdt) were both replies to jeff williams who was inquiring about the property status of
I apologise for this message having reached the list,
since the person who sent it is currently supposed to have
his posting rights suspended. An administrative issue.
Brian
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todd glassey wrote:
Thats what I thought John but when Verisign's Corporate-Government Liaison,
who is a very reputable attorney, pops up and says there is one I have to
ask.
Google searching seems to indicate that this role belongs to Michael
Aisenberg. I suggest that anyone who cares to
Of course, see (2) above. But the question was about a formal
agreement with ISO, and I am reasonably certain that no such
agreement exists. Certainly it did not exist in the mid-, or
even late-, 90s.
It never existed. Liaison letters with a few JTC1 SCs were
signed around 1992.
Brian
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:50:46AM -0700, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
(Note - there is an ITU-T Recommendation that talks about almost exactly
what is being described. It is documented in RFC 3356, which is shared
text with ITU-T A-Series Supplement 3. This is, however, not an MOU;
it's an ITU
--On Friday, 13 October, 2006 13:37 -0400 Dean Anderson
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, John C Klensin wrote:
And please see my earlier comments about your rights in
these issues generally and to make this type of demand, even
if the agreement and documents did exist.
I
John C Klensin wrote:
You are not a member of the IETF.
Todd is not a member of the IETF.
I am not a member of the IETF.
Jorge isn't a member of the IETF either.
The IETF has no members.
Not only are you right, but per se, the IETF is not a non-profit.
Further most people who participate
Of course the IETF is a non-profit entity. For-profit entities are
entities whose purpose is for the operations of the entity itself to
produce profits which accrue to its owners/proprietors/partners/...
Non-profit entities are entities with any other purposes.
Note that these definitions have
Eastlake III Donald-LDE008 wrote:
Of course the IETF is a non-profit entity.
Don, I think you lost the thread of this thread.
The operative phrase that triggered my comment was ...by law, Members of a
non-profit
By law. So this was about the legal construct of a member of a
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:08:42PM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote:
At base, I cannot figure out why anyone keeps feeding such trollish topics,
I thought it might at least be amusing to comment on the term member.
Note that at this point Dean and Todd have been banned from the IETF
list. While this
I understand that there is a formal MOU between the ISO and the IETF that
talks about ISO's actions with regard to the reliance on IETF Standards and
RFC's.
I want to physically see a copy of the document - in its entirety.
Todd Glassey
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--On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 12:27 -0700 todd glassey
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I understand that there is a formal MOU between the ISO and
the IETF that talks about ISO's actions with regard to the
reliance on IETF Standards and RFC's.
I want to physically see a copy of the document -
John,
Please remember with me back to the mid-1990s when ISO sent official
liaison reps to the IETF. The way I recall (perhaps incorrectly) things
working back then was that from the ISO perspective, these were official
liaison reps formally sanctioned according to ISO processes but from our
see RFC 3563 for one agreement
Scott
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Eric I proposed a long time ago that we create a new IESG Role and was a
Director of Liaisons and it of course, was shot down. Maybe in this more ...
tolerant climate today (nasbcih) it should be reviewed again. Its likely to
be one of the more powerful and long-term IETF/IESG role's as well
Scott Bradner wrote:
see RFC 3563 for one agreement
And since it would seem a bit useful to make liaison information readily
available, I was happy to fine:
http://ietf.org/liaisonActivities.html
It seems to cover the topic rather thoroughly. it looks as if it links to the
formal
Scott this is specific to one small area in IS-IS routing (the JTC) - what I
am looking for a broad agreement type MOU. I don't think one exists.
Todd
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From: Scott Bradner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: I
Dave - this really says nothing about what a liaison does or what their
responsibilities are. The IS-IS document talks to some extent about the
processes but the roles are still unclear.
My point was that the liaison is a businesses development role really. Its
about how IETF processes and IPs
--On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 18:27 -0400 Scott Bradner
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see RFC 3563 for one agreement
Scott, there are lots of agreements at the WG-WG level. There
are even a few agreements creating and identifying IETF Category
A liaisons to a few selected ISO/IEC JTC1 SCs
--On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 14:08 -0700 todd glassey
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Thats what I thought John but when Verisign's
Corporate-Government Liaison, who is a very reputable
attorney, pops up and says there is one I have to ask.
I am not questioning the reputation of whomever you
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