Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-16 Thread Aisenberg, Michael
Title: Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it... Todd Those are not exactly the facts.  The two notes I wrote and posted on the ABA InfoSec list yesterday (10/12-- a.m pdt) were both replies to "jeff williams" who was inquiring about the "p

Re: Please stop the country-specific references (Was: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:00:17PM +0200, Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 9 lines which said: > I'd like to observe that the IASA was created so that the IETF as a > whole wouldn't need to bother about these administrative matters. I am not sure I understand. If you me

Re: Please stop the country-specific references (Was: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-16 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I'd like to observe that the IASA was created so that the IETF as a whole wouldn't need to bother about these administrative matters. Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Please stop the country-specific references (Was: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-16 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:08:42PM -0700, Dave Crocker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 34 lines which said: > Further most people who participate in non-profits do not fit the > legal definition of "member". In the world of non-profits, that > term has very specific meaning and carries

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread Theodore Tso
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:08:42PM -0700, Dave Crocker wrote: > At base, I cannot figure out why anyone keeps feeding such trollish topics, > I thought it might at least be amusing to comment on the term member. Note that at this point Dean and Todd have been banned from the IETF list. While thi

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread Dave Crocker
John C Klensin wrote: You are not a member of the IETF. Todd is not a member of the IETF. I am not a member of the IETF. Jorge isn't a member of the IETF either. The IETF has no members. Not only are you right, but per se, the IETF is not a non-profit. Further most people who participate i

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 13 October, 2006 13:37 -0400 Dean Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Oct 2006, John C Klensin wrote: >> And please see my earlier comments about your "rights" in >> these issues generally and to make this type of demand, even >> if the agreement and documents did exist

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread Theodore Tso
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:50:46AM -0700, Harald Alvestrand wrote: > (Note - there is an ITU-T Recommendation that talks about almost exactly > what is being described. It is documented in RFC 3356, which is shared > text with ITU-T A-Series Supplement 3. This is, however, not an MOU; > it's an

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread Harald Alvestrand
quot;todd glassey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: "Contreras, Jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it... --On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 12:27 -0700 todd glassey

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-13 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I apologise for this message having reached the list, since the person who sent it is currently supposed to have his posting rights suspended. An administrative issue. Brian ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 14:08 -0700 todd glassey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thats what I thought John but when Verisign's > Corporate-Government Liaison, who is a very reputable > attorney, pops up and says there is one I have to ask. I am not questioning the reputation of whomever yo

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF- I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread todd glassey
gt;; "todd glassey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cc: "Contreras, Jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:20 PM Subject: RE: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF- I want to see it... John, Please remember with me back to the mid-1990s when

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread todd glassey
ROTECTED]>; Cc: "Contreras, Jorge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it... > > > --On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 12:27 -0700 todd glassey > <[EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF- I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread Fleischman, Eric
John, Please remember with me back to the mid-1990s when ISO sent official liaison reps to the IETF. The way I recall (perhaps incorrectly) things working back then was that from the ISO perspective, these were official liaison reps formally sanctioned according to ISO processes but from our persp

Re: I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 12 October, 2006 12:27 -0700 todd glassey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand that there is a formal MOU between the ISO and > the IETF that talks about ISO's actions with regard to the > reliance on IETF Standards and RFC's. > > I want to physically see a copy of the docum

I understand that there is an ISO MOU with the IETF - I want to see it...

2006-10-12 Thread todd glassey
I understand that there is a formal MOU between the ISO and the IETF that talks about ISO's actions with regard to the reliance on IETF Standards and RFC's. I want to physically see a copy of the document - in its entirety. Todd Glassey ___ Ietf maili