Re: IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-14 Thread Donald Eastlake
John, I can back most of your statement and the things you do but that below is just absolutely absurd. The RFID badge thing originated in the HOST not in IASA. It is entirely within normal facilities arrangement and negotiation to use pre-existing badge arrangements, particularly where there is

Re: IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-14 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, September 14, 2009 10:06 -0400 Donald Eastlake d3e...@gmail.com wrote: John, I can back most of your statement and the things you do but that below is just absolutely absurd. The RFID badge thing originated in the HOST not in IASA. It is entirely within normal facilities

Re: IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-14 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, September 13, 2009 22:00 -0700 Ole Jacobsen o...@cisco.com wrote: John, With all due respect: The WIDE folks, host of IETF 76, have offered to showcase a technology that is being used increasingly for all kinds of things including public transportation system, door

Re: IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-14 Thread Ole Jacobsen
John, You said: But when, after the announcement, when the community expresses considerable concerns, I expect the IASA (and, as appropriate the sponsor) to engage directly on the questions and to treat the decisions as a policy matter in which the community has to be involved. At the risk of

IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-13 Thread John C Klensin
Ole, I'd like to encourage you and your IAOC/Trustee colleagues to think about this in a slightly different light, consistent with other concerns I've expressed recently. Without taking any position about the idea itself, some significant fraction of the community seems to believe that this type

Re: IASA Experiments and responsibilities (was: Re: Some more background on the RFID experiment in Hiroshima)

2009-09-13 Thread Ole Jacobsen
John, With all due respect: The WIDE folks, host of IETF 76, have offered to showcase a technology that is being used increasingly for all kinds of things including public transportation system, door entry, and various other interesting applications. We've labelled this as an experiment and