Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-14 Thread RJ Atkinson
On 7 Jun 2006, at 04:52, Brian E Carpenter wrote: I wouldn't want to exclude the operational and implementer community either. I think the phrase used in draft-iab-rfc-editor is probably the best short form: "the Internet research and engineering community." Note of course that there is no way

Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Ran, RJ Atkinson wrote: On 5 Jun 2006, at 02:54, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Earlier, Ran Atkinson wrote: It has NOT been the case in the past that IETF was the community in control of RFC-Editor. In fact, that would represent a major, and in many people's view highly undesirable, change. Hist

RE: Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-05 Thread Phil Maceri
nevermind.  figured it out.Phil Maceri 10247 Barlow CrossingPerrysburg, OH 43551Cell: 248-250-1194Home: 586-435-9542 > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:35:41 +0200> To: franck@sopac.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: I

RE: Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-05 Thread Phil Maceri
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; ietf@ietf.org> Subject: Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor> > Dear Franck,> the reference is not ISOC nor the IETF. The reference is the user. > Hence, the networking solution people may use on the digital > ecosystem they built

Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-05 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Dear Franck, the reference is not ISOC nor the IETF. The reference is the user. Hence, the networking solution people may use on the digital ecosystem they built and own in common. The difficulty is to evaluate from past and present IETF/ISOC contributions their future cons and pros; and the m

Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-05 Thread RJ Atkinson
On 5 Jun 2006, at 02:54, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Earlier, Ran Atkinson wrote: It has NOT been the case in the past that IETF was the community in control of RFC-Editor. In fact, that would represent a major, and in many people's view highly undesirable, change. Historically, RFC-Editor has se

Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-05 Thread Franck Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 All, I suppose you are aware of the next ISOC board meeting in Marrakesh is on the 1/2 July 2006 (www.isoc.org) While I have kept an eye on the IETF list for qite some time, I still consider myself a newbie in the relationship ISOC/IETF. I'm trying

Re: IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-04 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Ran, RJ Atkinson wrote: Previously, someone wrote: I finished reading the RFC editor document and have one major concern. Ultimately, the rfc-editor function needs to be accountable to the IETF community because we're the ones paying for it. Incorrect. As I pointed out some weeks ago, and

IETF, IAB, & RFC-Editor

2006-06-01 Thread RJ Atkinson
Previously, someone wrote: I finished reading the RFC editor document and have one major concern. Ultimately, the rfc-editor function needs to be accountable to the IETF community because we're the ones paying for it. Incorrect. As I pointed out some weeks ago, and Leslie has recently repeate